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    freezing

    Ok, I know the answer is probably somewhere already in here but I have not been able to find it.
    I am going to resume my ghrp2 + Mod Grf (1-29). Can I put them in the same syringe and freeze them to be used later without the peptides degrading?
    ie. I did melanotan this summer. I filled 20 syringes, froze them and dosed p/p sun exposure by taking a syringe out and thawing it.
    Can I mix growth peptides and do the same?
    Thanks for reading.
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    Apparently you can have both peptides in the same syringe as long as they're separated by an air bubble.

    I'd also be interested in knowing if Mod GRF (1-29) can be frozen? It's supposed to be fairly fragile?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSmith View Post
    Can I put them in the same syringe and freeze them to be used later without the peptides degrading?
    If you must yes.

    But do not premix unreconstituted peptide. Just freeze them and reconstitute when needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hulk View Post
    I'd also be interested in knowing if Mod GRF (1-29) can be frozen? It's supposed to be fairly fragile?
    Yes it can be frozen.
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    I have a question about MGF freezing. I don't think it warrants a new thread.

    I plan to reconstitute MGF and dose post-workout, but I will only be using EOD and at a dose that means I will need to store a single 2mg vial for 14 days. I was going to pre-load and freeze (in an old chest freezer about -20c) using normal saline. I normally wouldn't be asking, but the duration of the freeze seems quite long to me and I was under the impression that MGF is quite fragile. Is it safe to assume the peptides in the last syringe will be intact by the 14th day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gpower View Post
    I have a question about MGF freezing. I don't think it warrants a new thread.

    I plan to reconstitute MGF and dose post-workout, but I will only be using EOD and at a dose that means I will need to store a single 2mg vial for 14 days. I was going to pre-load and freeze (in an old chest freezer about -20c) using normal saline. I normally wouldn't be asking, but the duration of the freeze seems quite long to me and I was under the impression that MGF is quite fragile. Is it safe to assume the peptides in the last syringe will be intact by the 14th day?
    I think it will be fine. I have stored peptides that were genuinely more fragile for 6 months plus. I use sterile water or sterile NaCl...
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    Quote Originally Posted by David View Post
    If you must yes.

    But do not premix unreconstituted peptide. Just freeze them and reconstitute when needed.
    Any issues with putting the Mod and GHRP 2 in same pin for immediate use (no freezing)? Would you say it is better to do 2 separate jabs with 1 as just MOD and 1 just GHRP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeyna View Post
    Any issues with putting the Mod and GHRP 2 in same pin for immediate use (no freezing)? Would you say it is better to do 2 separate jabs with 1 as just MOD and 1 just GHRP?
    No problems mixing the two prior to injection. That's what I recommend you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David View Post
    No problems mixing the two prior to injection. That's what I recommend you do.
    Thank you.
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    Question related to this thread.

    I understand that we can reconstitute and pre-mix in the needle allowing for one injection.

    However... is it also possible for a peptide lab to create Ipamorelin+Mod GRF(1-29) in ONE lyophilized form to start with which I can then reconstitute in one vial and refrigerate for the coming month's use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bro View Post
    Question related to this thread.

    I understand that we can reconstitute and pre-mix in the needle allowing for one injection.

    However... is it also possible for a peptide lab to create Ipamorelin+Mod GRF(1-29) in ONE lyophilized form to start with which I can then reconstitute in one vial and refrigerate for the coming month's use?
    No. Once mixed, it slowly begins to degrade. Mixing them in a syringe and using it immediately or within the next few hours is fine. Keeping them after mixing for longer than that wouldn't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven View Post
    No. Once mixed, it slowly begins to degrade. Mixing them in a syringe and using it immediately or within the next few hours is fine. Keeping them after mixing for longer than that wouldn't work.
    I have read on here (unless I have been misreading) that you CAN pre-mix and refrigerate and/or freeze all the of the GHRPs and GHRHs once reconstituted without major issue (refrigerate up to a month and freeze up to 3 months for example) - what your saying directly contradicts that.

    Also, is it possible for a lab to create Ipamorelin+Mod GRF(1-29) in ONE lyophilized form to start?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bro View Post
    I have read on here (unless I have been misreading) that you CAN pre-mix and refrigerate and/or freeze all the of the GHRPs and GHRHs once reconstituted without major issue (refrigerate up to a month and freeze up to 3 months for example) - what your saying directly contradicts that.

    Also, is it possible for a lab to create Ipamorelin+Mod GRF(1-29) in ONE lyophilized form to start?
    Mix and freeze, yes.
    Mix and refrigerate, no.

    What you read about them staying good for a month once reconstituted and just refrigerated only holds true for single peptides, not mixed peptides.
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    Ok... understood = freeze ok, refrigerate no.

    And is it possible for a lab to create Ipamorelin+Mod GRF(1-29) in ONE lyophilized form/batch to start so I do not have to mix them at all - just reconstitute?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bro View Post
    Ok... understood = freeze ok, refrigerate no.

    And is it possible for a lab to create Ipamorelin+Mod GRF(1-29) in ONE lyophilized form/batch to start so I do not have to mix them at all - just reconstitute?
    I guess. You'd have to ask the supplier this question.
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    I actually just received a significant amount of peptides and had a similar question. Should I freeze them without reconstituting them? I have enough for 6 months will they keep for that long?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Other View Post
    I actually just received a significant amount of peptides and had a similar question. Should I freeze them without reconstituting them? I have enough for 6 months will they keep for that long?
    Yes. Store them un-reconstituted in the freezer in an air-tight container. I put mine in a glass jar with some padding and toss in a couple of those little moisture absorbent packets that come in vitamin bottles.

    They will keep for a very long time if stored this way. Years.
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    As other have said premixing is ok as long as it's stored correctly and while in a fridge it does start to degdrade over time, freezing is fine and can last maybe up to 18 months if need be.
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    Ok I usually store my un-reconstituted peptides (GHRP/GHRH) in my bedroom closet at room temp for no longer than 3-4 months before use. Am I going about this wrong? I mean should I be freezing or refridgerating the un-reconstituted peps? Obviously, I refridge once reconstituted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnED View Post
    Ok I usually store my un-reconstituted peptides (GHRP/GHRH) in my bedroom closet at room temp for no longer than 3-4 months before use. Am I going about this wrong? I mean should I be freezing or refridgerating the un-reconstituted peps? Obviously, I refridge once reconstituted.
    3 months at room temp is probably ok, after that I'd think about freezing them.