What would be the ideal pct for someone coming off a 13 month cycle which included 19-nor compounds? Idiot doctors here are saying there's no need for pct but I know that's BS, I have to come off and recover.
What would be the ideal pct for someone coming off a 13 month cycle which included 19-nor compounds? Idiot doctors here are saying there's no need for pct but I know that's BS, I have to come off and recover.
Blast hCG, nolva and clomid. I would avoid high dose clomid if you don't want to cry everyday at work.
Clomid doesn't effect everyone that way, I wanna try it but cut it if I get those sides.Originally Posted by Damme
No hCG during your cycle?
Nolva is effective but can be "rough". I would look into AI, such as Exemestane. It has minimal effect on HDL/LDL and is useful in not drastically decreasing IGF-1 levels. I also would recommend ZMA, ED even after Nolva/Chlomifene/Aroma doses. I have minimal experience, and am not a professional. Take that as you may.
Ghrp-6 is great to use pct to keep gains. 3x100/150 mcg per day will suffice. Run HCG at 1250 iu every other day until bottle is gone. Btw, running an anti estrogen instead of a serm post cycle will cause estrogen rebound and give you instant gyno. So make sure to run a serm not an anti estrogen.
Last edited by Godzilla; 7th October 2015 at 01:07 PM.
I would definitely do hCG even though it's main use it to make PCT more effective, which in this case was not run on cycle. I would suspect his estrogen levels may be higher than needed now which is why pairing an AI may be effective. Nolva will make the current Estrogen "ineffective", while the Exem will bring the estrogen down. I think Aromasin is an AI Inhibitor-1, and Arimdex is an Inhibitor-2. I could be wrong. But there are notable differences I can't recall right now.
When was your last shot and what was it and the amount?
If hcg only works (result: good TT), we haven't need to use clomid and nolvadex?
Clomid at 100mg per day after 5 to 7 days doubles LH output and increases FSH by 20% to 50%. So, SERMS are to make GnRH more sensitive at the pituitary, once testicular function has been achieved.
Should I start blasting hcg while the steroids are still clearing my system?
I'm on 1.2g tren e only.
13 months with 19-nor? 1,2 g tren? Wow, it would be a very slow recovery i think...
I wasn't on 1.2g tren the whole time it was a blast and cruise thing I just started the tren now, my first blasts were just test.
These retarded "local doctors" are telling me pct is useless and just "come off" and since I'm young I'll magically rebound.
13 months is far too long for your htpa to be shutted, even with hcg administration, I suppose. Why don't you continue cruise with Test at 250mg/week as far as you already went in such a deep therapy? Many of your gains will be lost until recovery (if it is possible).
I have to join the military and do basic training, then infantry training, I suppose I can shoot test undecanoate right before basic or just change my career plan.
You know just get doctors to prescribe testosterone to you and go on TRT while you are on the army.
Just come off without PCT. Go to doctor and they will see you don't produce testosterone anymore and will have to prescribe you with TRT then join military. Won't that be allowed?
TRT not allowed in the army.
There is no way that TRT is not allowed.. It's like saying insulin is not allowed for diabetics.
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