major depression

[Edz]

Hi, I am in the 2nd week of PCT after the this cycle:

Testosterone Enanthate week 1-12 @ 500 mg
Trenbolone Enanthate week 1-8 @ 500 mg
HCG 500 iu every week

At the moment I'm doing Clomid and Nolvadex at 250/40 the first two days, and then 100/20 afterwards. At the moment (2 WEEKS in) I'm at 50/20 simply because I imagined possibly the clomid was causing the side effect based on my research.

In the last week, I have been stressing excessively and getting major panic and anxiety attacks. Am I using too much of these PCT drugs? Or am I not using enough? Any tips are highly appreciated because I'm feeling really sad now, and I'm losing my gains as well since I haven't eaten much.

[Tor]

Dude, that 250mg of clomid was too high. I am not an expert and do not know if clomid could cause depression at this level however that is the only thing that sticks out in my opinion. I hate to know you're suffering with these panic and anxiety attacks

[Lawrence]

Is this your first steroid cycle? How old are you? You must keep eating for sure and maybe even increase your fat intake a little. If you don't eat while on PCT, you are going to lose all the gains you have made. Hang in there mate and keep us up to date.

[Edz]

I am 31. And yes this was my 1st cycle. I actually got the clomid and nolvadex prescribed for me. I just weighed myself at 210lbs. Very disappointing.

I had panic attacks when I was a kid, but it has not kicked back in till this PCT.

[Semin]

How long was your cycle mate? how old are you? HCG use during the cycle usually will provide easy recovery afterwards, this might not be the case with long cycles.

I have been where you are now, you will feel sht until you get your testosterone levels back, it took me a couple month, but i did not ran HCG through the cycle, so you should be fine much sooner. Your doses are ok, if your medicines are not fake and you are not permanently shut down (can happen with long cycles) you should recover very soon, it's just a matter of time. I am glad you have used HCG on cycle, it really plays a big role in recovery.

[Lawrence]

Are you feeling stressed and restless? If so, I'm sure your stress and anxiety is probably as a result of the very large dose of Clomid. It'll go with time but could take a week or so considering the active-life of Clomid is approximately 6 days.

Most commonly used Clomid methods are typically 100/50/50/50.

[Edz]

Are you feeling stressed and restless? If so, I'm sure your stress and anxiety is probably as a result of the very large dose of Clomid. It'll go with time but could take a week or so considering the active-life of Clomid is approximately 6 days.

Most commonly used Clomid methods are typically 100/50/50/50.

I am able to fall asleep. I'm just very depressed and actually suffering from panic and anxiety attacks through the day. Thinking about issues I cannot control.

[Edz]

Will this shit pass after I finish PCT??? It is really rough.

[Steven]

Anxiety is a possible side effect of Clomid and at that high dose you are going to have to give the body time to process it. Clomid half-life is approximately five days so a 250mg dose is at 125mg after five days.. after another five days it is at 62,5mg.. Understand how it's working? After 2 weeks you've still got a dose in your body from the last 250mg dose big enough to be quite effective. Then you're still working with the extra 100mg doses you took after the last 250mg. Maybe some study before your next cycle will be useful.

[Edz]

I appreciate that. I think that makes sense. My friend is a doctor so I trusted him and did what he said rather than my usual PCT. I have been using 50mg of clomid for the last 4 days so I hope it'll taper off.

[Edz]

Can I simply stop using the clomid completely and use the nolva at 40mg for the rest of PCT?

[mandingo]

Buddy I understand how terrible it can feel like. But you are going to be ok and you will recover from your PCT.
Your body's hormones are balancing out and it can make you feel a little down, then you start worrying and thinking some thing is completely wrong and booom panic and anxiety attack.

You are ok mate.

[Idealer]

I have this problem also when under a lot of stress.
To the level I don't even want to take my multi vitamins out of worry that the additional energy could make me freak-out! As ridiculous as this may sound to other people.. It's not funny at all.


Just hang in there buddy.
Please feel free to PM me.

[Idealer]

I've also found that Kava Kava root helps me with anxiety..

[Lawrence]

Can I simply stop using the clomid completely and use the nolva at 40mg for the rest of PCT?

You can buddy if you believe it'll make you feel happier.

I think 50mg a day of clomid is sufficient (if you are going to use it in next PCT) with 30mg of nolvadex.

You can do just nolvadex if you think it is going to be better. Your hormones will still level out anyway.

[Edz]

I noticed my gf flirting with somebody over sms. Been obsessed about this since then. Thankfully she's outside the country on a holiday together with her family and will barely be reachable.

The thing is, it was quite innocent but it has really crippled me with stress and anxiety the last couple of days. I don't want her to return and me act like an absolute fanatic.

[Edz]

Thanks a lot to everyone for suggestions. I am most likely gonna stop the Clomid to see where it will take me.

[Idealer]

What do you mean by flirting? Someone both of you know personally or simply a random dude none of you guys have ever met?

[Edz]

They met on Facebook. Saw some sms messages. Actually shouldn't be a big-deal. Just my anxiety is uncontrollable.

[Edz]

I believe the clenbuterol I have been using to maintain gains has also something to do with it. I am going to stop using Clenbuterol and Clomid today. My testicles feel well and I jerked off this evening so I could be overdoing it with the drugs.

Any opinions? All of you have been amazing.