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  1. #21 8th September 2015 
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamW View Post
    From what I read using nolvadex and clomid together is actually sort of excess and unnecessary. Which is why alot of people doesn't use clomid maybe..
    They are both SERM's and nolvadex is much more effective . I think it requires something like 150mg of clomid to get what 20mg of nolvadex can do.
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    But guys, why don't you use HCG after heavy cycles? Clomid won't do too much, especially after a long cycle. I would use 3500 HCG UI 3 times a week and then switch to Clomid.
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    The depression is normal after a cycle, but I do think the clomid makes it even worse. What you should do is just work through it man. Don’t stop working out, just think that everything will go back to normal once you boost your natural testosterone production. I guess that in a couple of weeks you’ll feel better, and you can also change the clomid for something else.

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