Hi I am new to your forum. I am Lexy.

[lexy4149]

HI, I am in 40 years old. I couldn't decide if I wanted to start out with melanotan for tanning and lose a couple pounds. Or if I wanted to test anti aging, Thinning hair, Thin skin* and a little weight loss.* I also want to improve overall energy levels. I have a question as I have researched now for weeks. I read about melanotan II is great but you can get dark freckles or dark moles if you are prone to them. Plus, its snowing where I live so I don't have anyway to get the sun unless I go tanning at the salon. Then I read Ipamorelin and cjc-1295 w/o dac would be great for anti aging. I have three kids so they keep me active so I don't work out or do any other exercise except running up and down the stairs, laundry, etc. I want to know what would I benefit from more? I also want to know cost factor.What is most potent and most fast acting? What about copper peptides for? Lease expensive testing with most potential outcome? Please advise. I need help and I don't want to buy products that aren't effective.* 8)
Female
5'5
125 lbs
Thanks so much.

[Semin]

Welcome Lexy, I am hopeful to provide a few insights that can better focus your research. Yes ma'am, melanotan peptides are great for stimulating the production of melanin. Rapid tanning of the skin occurs after ones freckles appear extreme and dark first during the transition (the injection can be quite a commitment). It is complicated whether or not you utilize sunbeds or attempt sunless results. I would not anticipate weight loss when running the tanning peptides. Any further info on your goals and skin type helps when determining if you are a good candidate for Melanotan.

Ipamorelin (GHRP) and CJC-1295 w/o DAC (GHRH) are a wonderful combo for anti-aging, had you be an athletic male on synthetic sex hormones (testosterone replacement therapy). In terms of cost, you'll pay more for the syringes and/or prescription than you will on GHRP/GHRH. After confirming blood work is in order, although cost is astronomical, human growth hormone usage may compliment a tanning drug such as Afamelanotide (Melanotan 1). Copper peptides are bogus as far as I am aware. Overall I would save your money on peptide/polypeptide hormones given your cost/effectiveness concerns. Best of luck!

[peptideguru]

In addition to Melanotan's comment, I'd also like to add a couple of points.


I believe the best result to cost ratio lands in Melanotan 2's department. Taking a cost of £20 for a vial (£27.60 inc needles & wipes) , you'll notice pretty good results within that single vial over the course of about a month, you can then drop back to 1 vial every 2-3 months.
Melanotan is focused mainly on tanning though, as stated before it won't be reliable for anti aging or weight loss.
It can however increase confidence and make a lot of difference to how you look and feel if used correctly for a relatively low price.






Ipamorelin (and GHRP-2/6) and CJC-1295 must be used as a combination to get the best effect, rarely are they beneficial alone.


A few things to consider;
Ipamorelin normally comes in 2mg vials, but is the most direct GH release.
GHRP-2 comes in 5mg vials, but also affects cortisol and prolactin.
GHRP-6 comes in 5mg vials, but has a wide array of effects - the most noticeable is an increase in appetite.
They are generally priced similarly so GHRP-2 often wins out.


CJC w/o DAC has a half life of 30 minutes, but as the half lives of the GHRPs are pretty low this isn't much of an issue.
CJC w/ DAC lasts much longer but also costs slightly more.
Both come in 2mg vials


Generally GHRP-2 and CJC-1295 w/o DAC are chosen.
A generic dosing schedule is 100mcg 3 times daily.
If we take the cost of GHRP as £16 and the cost of CJC as £22, this brings the cost in at £120 (£154 inc needles & wipes) for a month.
It will however aid greatly for weight loss (if coupled with dieting) and anti aging. It does however aid in lean muscle gain if you wish to pursue that.


Tom








--All prices based on our current prices, may vary with different suppliers and stock levels.

[lexy4149]

I truly appreciate the quick responses. It is so difficult of me to decide what to do because most of the forums are mainly for men. And the ladies are normally body builders. I don't want to get muscular and have masculine features. I was always very fit and slender throughout my life until I hit 40. What the heck happened to me? I have morning green smoothies and eat very healthy through the day but I got on thyroid medication that has helped me to no degree whatsoever. Is used to tan in the booths and a the beach but since its cold we only have tanning salons which are disappearing like crazy. I am comfortable with infection because i went through in vitro, sometime, I give myself b-12 shots, sand a couple other injectable vitamins. These are the positive and negative of each of my options:
Option 1. melanotan II -dark freckles, no uv light, but it does make me feel sexy and thin when I tan.
Opton 2. Gfr2 and gfr6 make you want to consume food like crazy
Ipamorelin supposedly has non of those sides.
cjc 1295 with less side affects. Does melanotan give any beneficial hair or skin? My skin is older looking although thats to filler and botox it helps when I can afford it. My hair is turning grey in spots and thinning. I read about Aicar and w1516 and it says weight loss and no exercise. That seems outrageously expensive and did'n't see any real human reviews Not to seem ungrateful but growing older was not in my plan. I always thought I would find something that kept me young.
You mentioned I would get quicker results from melanotan 2 and hopefully that can help with tan and a little weight loss. I am 5'5 and weigh about 125 lbs. I am in us. so I am talking about a little different metric system. I want to know if i should go with one product for now to make it simple and then possibly a grfh and grfp. Least some effect such as bloating and such. Will melanotan II give me any color without tanning at all? I am sorry to be so inquisitive but I need someone who has experience and can give the me the real truth not just speculation. Also can melanotan II work with just of of the ipamorelin or the cic-with or without dac or am I just throwing away my money on so many profuctd? how many bottles of melanoran II should I purchase to start? How muh back water to start an same with the other best grouping you mentioned for the anti age part or it. If you would please please break down both protocols of each grouping an tell me the cost per week and/or montjh. I want to buy them right now but my lack of knowledge had me confusesed to do the wrong thing Pleavse give me you honest opinionof how many mg bottles for each protocol and how much water to add: If those are too many questions to answer please give me at least possible price for both protocols and if you can add only on to the melatonin for high?* You have been a wonderful help and i hope you will accept my most sincere questions. Did I mention if you know us prices by chance if not I will try to calculate after I know the most difference. have a wonderful evening. sincerely at your mercy

[peptideguru]

If you're worried about freckles, perhaps MT1 would be more suitable?
While being more expensive at £26 for a vial, that vial will last you about 2 weeks, with subsequent vials lasting about 3 weeks.
It does benefit from lower side effects though, and could be worth a look in.


GHRP-2 doesn't really have the appetite stimulation like GHRP-6 does, but it has been noticed by some people. When you consider that mg for mg GHRP-2 comes in cheaper than Ipamorelin, you could possibly try the cheaper version first and if you find an increase of appetite then switch to Ipamorelin.


CJC 1295 doesn't really work as a standalone product, or rather is exponentially better when paired with a GHRP peptide, and considering they are cheaper it doesn't make sense to use it alone.


The only peptide (or combination) I'm aware of that provides substantial fat loss without exercise is a Adipotide and HGH Frag 176-191 combo.
However, Adipotide comes in well above most generic peptides, we normally provide it for special orders at about £50 for a 5mg vial (larger quantities do decrease the price). This means it can easily cost hundreds.








Going around in circles slightly, so I'll surmise;


Tanning


Quickest, most noticeable and cheapest results are;
Melanotan 2
Recommended dosage - 500mcg,
A kit will cost £28*. This will last you a month, the second (and subsequent) kits will last you about 2-3 months.
Dose 500mcg every day for about 2 weeks, then drop back to every 2 days until you reach the colour you like. Drop back to about 500mcg every 3 days to maintain that color.
You also need to visit the tanning salons for about 5-10 minutes twice a week.


Next cheapest, most noticeable results are;
Melanotan 1
Recommended dosage - 1mg,
Everything you'll need will cost about £31*. This will last 2 weeks, the second (and subsequent) kits will last you about a 1-1.5 months.

Dose 1mg every day for about 2 weeks, then drop back to every 2 days until you reach the colour you like. Drop back to about 1mg every 3 days to maintain that color.
You also need to visit the tanning salons for about 5-10 minutes twice a week.


Weight loss/lean muscle gain


Noticeable, moderate cost results are;
GHRP-2 & CJC-1295
Recommended dosage - 100mcg of each, 3 times a day.
Everything you'll need will cost about £154*. This will last a month, the second kit will also last a month - you shouldn't continue this schedule for more than 3 months.
Dose 100mcg of each peptide 3 times a day, continue until you're happy or have been using them for 3 months.

Quick, noticeable, moderate cost results are;
Adipotide and HGH Frag 176-191
Everything you'll need will cost about £400*. This will last a month, I wont calculate the dosages unless you're truly interested, drop me a PM if you are.

*All prices are based on current labpeptides.net prices, other suppliers may vary!


Tom

[Semin]

"
I truly appreciate the quick responses. It is so difficult of me to decide what to do because most of the forums are mainly for men. And the ladies are normally body builders. I don't want to get muscular and have masculine features. I was always very fit and slender throughout my life until I hit 40. What the heck happened to me? I have morning green smoothies and eat very healthy through the day but I got on thyroid medication that has helped me to no degree whatsoever. Is used to tan in the booths and a the beach but since its cold we only have tanning salons which are disappearing like crazy. I am comfortable with infection because i went through in vitro, sometime, I give myself b-12 shots, sand a couple other injectable vitamins. These are the positive and negative of each of my options]Option 1. melanotan II -dark freckles, no uv light, but it does make me feel sexy and thin when I tan.
Opton 2. Gfr2 and gfr6 make you want to consume food like crazy
Ipamorelin supposedly has non of those sides.
cjc 1295 with less side affects. Does melanotan give any beneficial hair or skin? My skin is older looking although thats to filler and botox it helps when I can afford it. My hair is turning grey in spots and thinning. I read about Aicar and w1516 and it says weight loss and no exercise. That seems outrageously expensive and did'n't see any real human reviews Not to seem ungrateful but growing older was not in my plan. I always thought I would find something that kept me young.
You mentioned I would get quicker results from melanotan 2 and hopefully that can help with tan and a little weight loss. I am 5'5 and weigh about 125 lbs. I am in us. so I am talking about a little different metric system. I want to know if i should go with one product for now to make it simple and then possibly a grfh and grfp. Least some effect such as bloating and such. Will melanotan II give me any color without tanning at all? I am sorry to be so inquisitive but I need someone who has experience and can give the me the real truth not just speculation. Also can melanotan II work with just of of the ipamorelin or the cic-with or without dac or am I just throwing away my money on so many profuctd? how many bottles of melanoran II should I purchase to start? How muh back water to start an same with the other best grouping you mentioned for the anti age part or it. If you would please please break down both protocols of each grouping an tell me the cost per week and/or montjh. I want to buy them right now but my lack of knowledge had me confusesed to do the wrong thing Pleavse give me you honest opinionof how many mg bottles for each protocol and how much water to add]"

We're happy to help, thank you for the great questions!

Not knowing your skin type, melanotan 1 offer greater user-friendliness, albeit it is 4-5x more expensive than Melanotan II. Melanotan peptides do make the skin appear thicker w/ the added melanin development, it has it's advantages & complications....

GW-501516 is reasonable cost wise, however AICAR is ridiculous and the combo likely isn't worthwhile (& possibly unsafe).

Forget about CJC-1295 products as you are not using anabolic steroids or hormone replacement therapy. Yes, ipamorelin is a rather low effect/side-effect GHRP which may be the cheapest route to inject a performance enhancing drug (again which will not yield desirable/noticeable results in the short term, and I only know those to be on testosterone to see value in the product).

[lexy4149]

I appreciate the responses to my questions. I am still not sure of what would be the most beneficial for me. I read that women over 40 that use melanotan will bring out all the skin damage from the past and can make you look worse. I have tanned most of my life except for the past 5 years or so. I have dark hair and light skin with a little freckles. I had more when I was younger but I like to look flawless. I like the way I look tanned but I read a forum where the ladies said its mostly for younger people in their 20's.
As far as the thinning hair, thinning skin, wrinkles,and weight loss I am interested in an improving those issues because I have read a lot of articles how hgh can really improve your youth and vitality. Of course I understand that its not overnight that I will see results but how long would it be to actual notice any skin tightening effects or any improvemnts with hair and such? I would be willing to spend about $100-$200 a month depending on what you feel would best be suited for me. I don't want increased appetite or swelling if that would be possible. I would tolerate side effects if they were short term and I really saw improvement. Please let me know what other options you feel would be best for me? I am very interested in starting this so by the spring I will be able to look and feel more confident. What is my best options that you would recommend?

[Semin]

"
I appreciate the responses to my questions. I am still not sure of what would be the most beneficial for me. I read that women over 40 that use melanotan will bring out all the skin damage from the past and can make you look worse. I have tanned most of my life except for the past 5 years or so. I have dark hair and light skin with a little freckles. I had more when I was younger but I like to look flawless. I like the way I look tanned but I read a forum where the ladies said its mostly for younger people in their 20's.
As far as the thinning hair, thinning skin, wrinkles,and weight loss I am interested in an improving those issues because I have read a lot of articles how hgh can really improve your youth and vitality. Of course I understand that its not overnight that I will see results but how long would it be to actual notice any skin tightening effects or any improvements with hair and such? I would be willing to spend about $100-$200 a month depending on what you feel would best be suited for me. I don't want increased appetite or swelling if that would be possible. I would tolerate side effects if they were short term and I really saw improvement. Please let me know what other options you feel would be best for me? I am very interested in starting this so by the spring I will be able to look and feel more confident. What is my best options that you would recommend?
"

You may want to review the photo results from women who have gone through clinical trials with Melanotan 1 for perspective. You're right that some who dose potent melanotan 2 throw caution to the wind w/ regards to amplifying prior sun damage. In terms of HGH, you'll see benefits at 6-9 months and it's best to continue as long as you are able. Unfortunately your annual budget is on par for black market generics...however legitimate/quality products are becoming harder to come by. Sorry for a lack of recommendations, please let us know if you narrow your search and/or find the miracle product!

[lexy4149]

What about this genotropin I have been seeing in the UK for about $85.00 for 30iu? How much would I need for each day/week/month? I would like to know because this really peaked my interest. Would I be able to use this and get the results I am seeking? This looks like a viable product with excellent reviews but everyone on forums are usually men so I don't know what the dosage would be but the rating look very good as well as price depending on how many iu I would use a day. If this is not a good option please tell me my best option and I could possibly raise my budget if it shows results. How long until you see results with the genotropin? I saw it on a few different uk websites which may be linked but some are out of stock and I found one that sells it in stock now. Any help is very much appreciated. Would I run this consistently? Do you dose 5 days on 2 days off? Also, one more question. What about the tb-400? Would this help with hair growth? My hair is in very bad thinning condition and read very good information on hair growth but again its all men no ladies. I know some hair products that people use topically on only effective for men. Thanks again! Will be awaiting your responses.

[Semin]

"
What about this genotropin I have been seeing in the UK for about $85.00 for 30iu? How much would I need for each day/week/month? I would like to know because this really peaked my interest. Would I be able to use this and get the results I am seeking? This looks like a viable product with excellent reviews but everyone on forums are usually men so I don't know what the dosage would be but the rating look very good as well as price depending on how many iu I would use a day. If this is not a good option please tell me my best option and I could possibly raise my budget if it shows results. How long until you see results with the genotropin? I saw it on a few different uk websites which may be linked but some are out of stock and I found one that sells it in stock now. Any help is very much appreciated. Would I run this consistently? Do you dose 5 days on 2 days off? Also, one more question. What about the tb-400? Would this help with hair growth? My hair is in very bad thinning condition and read very good information on hair growth but again its all men no ladies. I know some hair products that people use topically on only effective for men. Thanks again! Will be awaiting your responses.
"

Although I am unsure about the particular brand of GH, a few dollars per unit is on par with what I would expect. Some is better than none imho when it comes to adding synthetic human growth hormone to the mix. For you I think .5-1iu is plenty and you could dose daily (of course it would stretch the budget furthest if dosed every other day). Results would take weeks-months to begin seeing the value. TB-500 (thymosin beta 4) is wonderful, however it's cost is extremely high (it's best used for dramatic trauma recovery/healing vs anti-aging). Thanks again for the great questions & follow-ups lexy!

[lexy4149]

I appreciate your honest opinion and getting back to me so quickly. I wanted to know if you have any information on Sarms? Is that an option? Which hgh do you feel is quality? It doesnt' seem like it would be that costly if I am only needing .5 or 1 unit a day? I read some good info on sarms so now I was just looking into that. I am overwhelmed with the contradictory information on the net. I just want to order the best product and not waste my time with a bunch of suppliments and things I already have spent a small fortune on that don't work. I think you have been really helpful. Let me know what you think? Thanks again!

[Semin]

Happy to help, np! I don't know much about SARMS (Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators). When I review communities without advertisers of the product...it doesn't come on the radar much. In terms of HGH quality control it is just too difficult to keep up & refer a brand, be sure to qualify your referral the best you can before investing!

[jim c]

the wife uses MT2 and is almost 70 it seems to help the skin to stay younger looking the moles and freckles will blend into a tan with time , we also use GRF 1-29* for anti aging helps a lot with the joints and the likes . I'm also on oral thyroid and the MT seems to help keep the weight down, so for my two cents I would go with MT2and GRF 1-29 to get the results you want. also they will not* cause you to bulk up.

[melanotano]

@lexy4149

I have no experience with other peptides than Melanotan.

But I would definitely recommend to lose body fat and to be in calorie deficit.
Obesity, high caloric intake and high metabolism, promotes aging and diseases significantly.

It is also social high status being thin and having narrow waist ]Maintain an aesthetic physique and a small waist.

[bigboy22]

Wow. I have never expected this forum to be sooooo informational! I thought this is just for introducing oneself. Lol. Anyway, nice to know all of you guys.

PS: I am also a newbie here. I just signed up recently.

[queen_B]

Welcome Lexy, I am hopeful to provide a few insights that can better focus your research. Yes ma'am, melanotan peptides are great for stimulating the production of melanin. Rapid tanning of the skin occurs after ones freckles appear extreme and dark first during the transition (the injection can be quite a commitment). It is complicated whether or not you utilize sunbeds or attempt sunless results. I would not anticipate weight loss when running the tanning peptides. Any further info on your goals and skin type helps when determining if you are a good candidate for Melanotan.

Ipamorelin (GHRP) and CJC-1295 w/o DAC (GHRH) are a wonderful combo for anti-aging, had you be an athletic male on synthetic sex hormones (testosterone replacement therapy). In terms of cost, you'll pay more for the syringes and/or prescription than you will on GHRP/GHRH. After confirming blood work is in order, although cost is astronomical, human growth hormone usage may compliment a tanning drug such as Afamelanotide (Melanotan 1). Copper peptides are bogus as far as I am aware. Overall I would save your money on peptide/polypeptide hormones given your cost/effectiveness concerns. Best of luck!

Hey admin, you are really helpful! it is one of the best thing about www.researchpeptides.com. You really make sure to attend to the inquiries of the forum members here. Great! Keep doing a good job.

[no-longer-a-baby]

Hi Lexy! We are both the same. I a also new to this forum and I love it here - SO MUCH! I feel like I am already an advance peptides user in this forum considering that I learn a lot from this.