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  1. #1 9th August 2014 
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    Is it dangerous to use sunbeds?

    Is it dangerous to use sunbeds?
    An expert in the field of radiation protection has referred to the use of tanning parlours as "an industrial-scale radiation exposure experiment involving significant parts of the populations of Northern Europe and America." Approximately 10 per cent of the population of Northern Europe use sunbeds on a regular basis for tanning purposes. Sunbed radiation can produce adverse health effects similar to those of natural sunlight, most notably in fair-skinned persistent users. In this context it is a subject of great concern that approximately 40 per cent of sunbed users in the United Kingdom have fair skin. The same study identified that 20 per cent of people questioned had more than 100 annual sunbed sessions, and 5 per cent had used sunbeds for 15 to 20 years.

    Are sunbeds like sunlight?
    Natural UV radiation reaching the Earth's surface consists of approximately 95% UVA and 5% UVB radiation. Tanning parlours use different types of sunbeds, some emitting more, some emitting less UVB as compared to UVA. In the past, there was a trend towards a decrease of UVB and a corresponding increase in UVA. This was based on the experience that excessively UVB-rich sunbeds easily cause intermittent overexposures and risks of acute sunburns with a possible increased melanoma risk. On the other hand, excessive UVA exposure has lately been discussed as a possible melanoma risk factor in the scientific and regulatory community. Many sunbed manufacturers are now returning to relative amounts of UVA and UVB that mimic the natural composition in sunlight.

    How do sunbeds produce a tan?
    Sunbeds mainly emit UVA radiation which activates the melanin pigment already embedded in the upper skin cells. This immediate tan begins to fade within a few hours after cessation of exposure, but can persist following sufficient and repeated exposure. The small amounts of UVB emitted by sunbeds induce the so-called delayed tanning reaction, where new melanin is produced and distributed between the upper skin cells.

    Increasing numbers of people rely on sunbeds for whole-body tanning and to tan beyond their normal complexion. This forced tanning is associated with DNA damage in melanocytes, the cells that produce the dark-coloured melanin pigment in the skin. In genetically dark-skinned individuals, relatively little DNA damage is sufficient to bring about the extra-tanning effect. In contrast forced tanning in fair-skinned individuals is associated with a lot of DNA damage. It is mainly fair-skinned people who are keen to darken their complexion.

    Sunbeds are not as successful in producing a tan as the people using them would like them to be. A recent British survey reported that only 2/3 of the regular sunbed users interviewed had achieved moderate tanning, while 1/3 had gained a mild tan; some also reported patchy tanning.

    Surely, sunbed use offers protection against sunburn?
    A recent survey suggests that 40 per cent of sunbed users believe they can prevent sunburning on holiday by obtaining a tan beforehand. To put things into perspective]
    Sunbeds mainly emit UVA radiation, which produces a tanning effect by increasing the amount of melanin pigment in the upper skin layers. Even though this is designed as a defence against further UV damage, the darkening as such provides little extra protection. UVB, on the other hand, stimulates cells to produce a thicker epidermis, which offers slightly more protection against further exposure to UV radiation

    What are the risks from sunbed use?
    Few studies have been undertaken to systematically assess the dangers of sunbed use, and the picture remains equivocal. Sunbeds for self-tanning purposes have been available for the last two decades and due to the long latency period for skin cancer and eye damage it has been difficult so far to demonstrate any long-term health effects.

    The majority of tanning parlours provide inadequate advice to their customers. The use of eye protection such as goggles or sunglasses should be mandatory. However, as sunbed users aim to have an even tan, they often decide against protecting any part of their body.

    Users have reported a range of short-term symptoms including itching, dryness and redness of skin, freckling and photosensitivity. Common outcomes in the longer term, especially in fair-skinned people, may involve blistering of the skin. Sagging and wrinkling of the skin are an almost certain price to be paid by frequent sunbed users.

    Sunbed use as a melanoma time bomb?
    The new technology sunbeds are said to emit "safe" UV radiation. However, the original presumption that UVA is a safe form of UV radiation does not hold. If nothing else, it enhances skin ageing but, most likely, UVA also plays a role in skin cancer promotion. So what about the "healthy tan" that many manufacturers advertize? The results of a few simple measurements and calculations should suffice to put such claims into perspective]
    Average UVA levels of sunbeds easily reach midday solar UVA levels in the United Kingdom, but some sunbeds may exceed maximum values up to 20 times.

    UVB levels of sunbeds may be as low as 1/20 of the maximum solar UVB levels during the British summer, however, they may also exceed them threefold.

    Assuming the average UVA and UVB levels of the sunbeds tested, the carcinogenic effect of sunbed use over a period of 10 minutes corresponds with an exposure to 10 minutes of Mediterranean summer sun. Regular sunbed use therefore contributes significant amounts to the user's annual UV radiation exposure, especially as it involves whole-body exposure - the exposed skin area in sunbed tanning is at least twice as large as the average sunbather's.

    Even though the causes of malignant melanoma are not fully understood, tumour development appears to be linked to occasional exposure to intense sunlight. Curiously, tumours are most frequent on body sites that are rarely exposed to the sun. Sunbeds subject their users to intermittent high exposures of UVA and UVB radiation – this may provide the ideal setting for the development of malignant skin cancer. However, the few epidemiological studies that have been carried out to date have not provided any consistent results.

    Tanning beyond the normal complexion is associated with DNA damage in melanocytes, the cells that produce the dark-coloured melanin pigment in the skin. Even a small tanning effect requires a lot of DNA damage in the fair-skinned population. Therefore, regular use of sunbeds will significantly increase your chances of getting skin cancer if you are fair-skinned. The International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection states that "the use of sunbeds for cosmetic purposes is not recommended." Regular exposure should not exceed two sessions per week with a maximum of 30 sessions per year. Australian cancer control organizations go even further, calling for tanning salons and advertizements for sunbeds to display health warnings – similar to those required on cigarette packets.

    Who should never use sunbeds?
    * * under 18s
    * * people who have very fair skin
    * * people who burn easily or tan poorly
    * * people with a lot of freckles or moles
    * * people who have had skin cancer or have a family history of the disease
    * * people using medication that could make their skin more sensitive to UV
    * * people who already have extensive "sunlight" damage

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    Re: Is it dangerous to use sunbeds?

    Personally I think Melanotan is safer than sunbeds. There's no need for extremism, but I know people going to sunbeds multiple times a week without taking any breaks. The thing is: it increases your risk, just like smoking, bad eating habits, but genes also play a big role.
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    Re: Is it dangerous to use sunbeds?

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    Personally I think Melanotan is safer than sunbeds. There's no need for extremism, but I know people going to sunbeds multiple times a week without taking any breaks. The thing is]"

    Agree.
    UVA from sunbeds are going very deep in the skin layer and will damage DNA and increase cancer risk.
    But anyway, I took a lot of sun from sunbeds* :-\
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    I think there is way too much radiation and UV rays in a tanning bed. I think you are better off using the good old fashioned sunshine.
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    I think you should be fine using sunbeds as long as you are using melanotan. As it protects your skin from uv rays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David View Post
    I think you should be fine using sunbeds as long as you are using melanotan. As it protects your skin from uv rays.
    Not really, if it was protecting skin from UV rays, then tanning would not occur. To tan you need UV rays with melanotan or without it, to correct what you said, melanotan protects skin from burning which is caused by UV rays.
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    Melanotan aids your body in tanning - it doesn't protect you from UV or stop you from burning.

    It's the tan that you develop over time that protects you from UV/burning, not the Melanotan itself.
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    Personally, I would rather just go outside and tan rather than using a tanning bed. You could use melanotan since it helps your body to tan, but even then I would not use a tanning bed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stridee View Post
    Personally, I would rather just go outside and tan rather than using a tanning bed. You could use melanotan since it helps your body to tan, but even then I would not use a tanning bed.
    Depends where you are though.
    In Texas with ~230 sun days that's easy to say, here in the UK I'm sure we average around the low 110-120 days, and even then they're a lot shorter.

    If you can get natural UV, then you should by all means do it. However, if you can't get any natural UV then you have to supplement it with beds.
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    I have been in some Asian countries and I must say, you will burn out there. For me, melanotan works. I am not a fan of tanning beds.

    And must I add, the beaches in Asia are very warm and interesting. You just have to make sure that you know how to balance the heat of the sun to get that perfect tan. An 8 am sunbathing is not a good idea, though.
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    I would have to say that any kind of artificial sunbathing is bad for you. Not only do you not know exactly how much radiation the machine is putting off, many times you can not see the damage it is causing. My advise is to stay away by all means.
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    Bask under the glory of the Sun King! I think it is waaaaay better than tanning beds. Well, that's just me. I prefer to be burned outside our house while wearing my bikini and drinking martini with friends. LOL! But seriously, you can just go out and do it, right? With a great company, you wouldn't just focus on getting tanned. You would have a great time even if the burning hurts.
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    It depends how many times would you do those injections that would contain melanotan, and how often you visit sunbeds. If it's only once in a while then sunbeds aren't that harmful. You can't use them once a week though, once per month would be alright.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elisa View Post
    It depends how many times would you do those injections that would contain melanotan, and how often you visit sunbeds. If it's only once in a while then sunbeds aren't that harmful. You can't use them once a week though, once per month would be alright.
    It's not about how often but a mixture of how long and your UV protection.

    If you go once a month for 20 minutes that's a hell of a lot worse than once a week for 3 minutes each - while wearing SPF30.

    You only significantly increase your risk of skin cancer if you burn, tanning itself does not damage the skin, if you're wearing some sun cream too.
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    I use melanotan and I prefer it to sunbeds. I personally feel that sunbed is a little too extreme and I don't see the reason why I should go to the extreme.
    Have you tried tanning naturally?
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    Quote Originally Posted by deewanna View Post
    I use melanotan and I prefer it to sunbeds. I personally feel that sunbed is a little too extreme and I don't see the reason why I should go to the extreme.
    Have you tried tanning naturally?
    Sunbeds are a short cut.. It takes much less time and are available to regions that doesn't have much sunlight. Natural tanning is much better for sure
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    I believe tanning beds are unhealthy because it's giving off ultraviolet rays, which is the biggest cause of cancer. If you are constantly getting tans all the time, you might think its not going to affect you, but later on in life it will. Tanning beds are dangerous to the skin and it causes dark spots on the body, which can be cancerous. Even though, tanning beds have the same ultraviolet rays like the sun, people think its healthier to be in a tanning bed than out in the sun. I believe if you stand out in the sun for a long time or stay in the tanning bed, it will have the same affect on your skin. They both share the same radiation and its harmful.
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    Just get outside lol. I'm Canadian for gods sake, yet I'm still able to maintain a tan. If you can't, why not just stick with melanotan? I've never seen any reason to use sunbeds, even before I found out about melanotan.
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    "Even though the causes of malignant melanoma are not fully understood, tumour development appears to be linked to occasional exposure to intense sunlight. Curiously, tumours are most frequent on body sites that are rarely exposed to the sun. Sunbeds subject their users to intermittent high exposures of UVA and UVB radiation – this may provide the ideal setting for the development of malignant skin cancer. However, the few epidemiological studies that have been carried out to date have not provided any consistent results."


    Very interesting. I find it hard to believe that sunbeds do not cause any issues, (i.e. cancer, skin issues and whatnot). The problem is that their is no complete evidence that sunbeds are the cause behind many conditions.

    I believe this is inconclusive and I think there is much more research to be done.
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    I think the subbed debate us one that will go on forever to be honest and everybody will have their own opinion, and be able to give examples for and agibst their use.

    Personally, anything in moderation isn't that bad I think, so as long as you don't over do it, I think they're fine to use.