I think you are only saying this to say something. Yes, whey protein, working out, sleeping eight hours a day and blah, blah do help. This is how all we all started, but you reach a point in where you need a little push. Drinking protein shakes and eating bars won't give you the results most of us want. For many, peptides are the solution to what we're lokiing for. If you train for a couple years and still want more, then get more.