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    Clomid and Nolvadex are both used daily for the four weeks of PCT? So seems like I will need two packages of each for the four week PCT? Damn that is going to be expensive..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolik View Post
    Clomid and Nolvadex are both used daily for the four weeks of PCT? So seems like I will need two packages of each for the four week PCT? Damn that is going to be expensive..
    Yes, you take them every day. SubQ injections are easy. You can find a video in youtube on how to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamW View Post
    Yes, you take them every day. SubQ injections are easy. You can find a video in youtube on how to do it.
    I watched a YouTube video clip on it. Does it have to be nicely between your fat and muscle tissue, or do you simply pull some skin out and shoot it? Seemed like the guy in video wasn't too worried about it, just pulled some skin and injected it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolik View Post
    I watched a YouTube video clip on it. Does it have to be nicely between your fat and muscle tissue, or do you simply pull some skin out and shoot it? Seemed like the guy in video wasn't too worried about it, just pulled some skin and injected it.
    No it does not need to be perfect. If you pull your skin around your belly and inject I almost guarantee you just can't miss.
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    I didn't suppose that adding the HCG, Adex , Tamoxifene, and Clomiphene costs more money than the actual 6000 mg of Test E that i'm going to be using through a 12 wk cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Other View Post
    I didn't suppose that adding the HCG, Adex , Tamoxifene, and Clomiphene costs more money than the actual 6000 mg of Test E that i'm going to be using through a 12 wk cycle.
    Yes they are quite expensive but you have to use all of them for an effective cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamW View Post
    Yes they are quite expensive but you have to use all of them for an effective cycle.
    Yeah I know that now. I remember like ten years ago my friend was running 12 week Testosterone + Deca cycle without any AI, no HCG and simply no PCT. It's crazy, it blows my mind now that I am reading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Other View Post
    Yeah I know that now. I remember like ten years ago my friend was running 12 week Testosterone + Deca cycle without any AI, no HCG and simply no PCT. It's crazy, it blows my mind now that I am reading.
    There is much more information these days..
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamW View Post
    There is much more information these days..
    That was back in college. Strange that he was looking twice of my size but I was able to out lift him on everything except leg related exercises.
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    I was 72kg
    18 years old
    And could bench press 135kg
    Creatine and vitamins was the only supplements I took.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Other View Post
    I was 72kg
    18 years old
    And could bench press 135kg
    Creatine and vitamins was the only supplements I took.
    Really impressive stats bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamW View Post
    Really impressive stats bro
    Worst part was that my bench press was higher than my back squat.. Guess I was one of those guys with chicken legs..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Other View Post
    Worst part was that my bench press was higher than my back squat.. Guess I was one of those guys with chicken legs..
    With time I've made it to the point that I don't really care about how much I can lift. Body building is mostly about the appearance and fatiguing the muscle. You don't need to lift really heavy to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamW View Post
    With time I've made it to the point that I don't really care about how much I can lift. Body building is mostly about the appearance and fatiguing the muscle. You don't need to lift really heavy to do that.
    Couldn't have said it better by myself.
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    Couldn't have said it better by myself.
    It is a lot better than having to deal with injuries aswell. Absolutely nothing sucks more than a trauma that keeps you away from the gym for 4+ months.
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    another complete noob question, so the liquid SERM's (nolvadex, clomid, adex) are used orally correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolik View Post
    another complete noob question, so the liquid SERM's (nolvadex, clomid, adex) are used orally correct?
    Yes, you measure and drink them.
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    You can start the PCT after 10-11 days and you'll be fine. 250 UI of HCG is way too low in my opinion. 1500 UI per shot would do the trick better and then you wouldn't need clomid anymore.
    Don't worry, there won't be any signs of gyno at this dose. I can almost promise it.

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