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    Loading Up Before Holiday

    I've not started yet but in a couple months i'm off for a week in the middle east. I don't want to risk taking this stuff with me travelling especially to one of those countries.

    Has anyone loaded up before a weeks holiday or is this not a good idea.

    e.g. you depart on the Sunday, so Thursday, Friday and Sat take 1mg a day?
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    Re: Loading Up Before Holiday

    We'd better discuss how to travel with it. How to put it in another type of container without losing its potency.
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    Re: Loading Up Before Holiday

    I had this problem, I decided not to take it with me on holiday b/c of the risk of it being taken off me. It really depends what skin type you are - if you are above a 2 you'll get dark within a few weeks if you're below you may need 1/2 months..it depends how much sun you get aswell, taking MT-2 without no sun isn't very beneficial. I must say 1mg is a large dose for a new user I'd start of at 100mcg and work your way up to avoid sides.
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    Re: Loading Up Before Holiday

    Thanks for the replies. I did plan for the next 2 weeks to just do 250mcg and see how I get on, I'm a type 2. I never peel, but i usually just go red/tan.

    I wondered whether the last two days before I go I should take 1mg each day... as I won't have any mt2 for a 10 days after.
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    Re: Loading Up Before Holiday

    Melanotan doesn't really work in that way.
    If you load before you leave you'll get 2-3 days of enhancement.
    You'll also have next to no tan and be susceptible to the intense sun there.


    What would be better to do is; for the 2 weeks before your holiday, use melanotan how you usually would, building the tan in the beds.
    Then, when you leave you'll have a decent bit of a tan, and you'll be more protected from the sun.
    You'll also tan relatively well as you'll be building on an already existent tan.






    Alternatively, mix up a nasal spray into an OTC bottle (not a plain one), and chuck it into your hold (not carry-on) luggage.


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    We'd better discuss how to travel with it. How to put it in another type of container without losing its potency.
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    Potency isn't the issue, sterility is.
    MT2 won't lose it's potency if you change containers or leave it somewhere warm.
    The issues faced are about bacterial infection if you then go and inject said substance. If you can ensure sterility when it changes containers then it's fine to inject when you get there.


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    Re: Loading Up Before Holiday

    And bac water maintains sterility for two months unlike other types of water.
    Would an OTC nasal spray container look suspicious? Or should you put a brand label on it to make believe it's just a random OTC nasal spray?
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    Re: Loading Up Before Holiday

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    MT2 won't lose it's potency if you change containers or leave it somewhere warm.


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    I thought if its not mixed then its ok but once its mixed it has to be kept in the fridge otherwise it goes bad...... like milk
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    Re: Loading Up Before Holiday

    Not before two months when mixed with bac water.
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    Re: Loading Up Before Holiday

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    Not before two months when mixed with bac water.
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    Thanks. That's good to know so I don't have to keep it in the fridge all the time which is handy for when i go away. I suppose an icepack or something would help keep it good though.
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    Re: Loading Up Before Holiday

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    Would an OTC nasal spray container look suspicious? Or should you put a brand label on it to make believe it's just a random OTC nasal spray?
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    Not at all, it will already be labelled as whatever you chose to buy. If you're going to a hot area, you could buy a dry nose mist as that wouldn't raise any flags.
    The inside of the bottles aren't sterile so wouldn't be suitable for injections, just nasal administration.


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    I thought if its not mixed then its ok but once its mixed it has to be kept in the fridge otherwise it goes bad...... like milk ]"


    Kind of; You can still make your cereal wet and soft using it, but it may not be the nicest.
    Similarly, MT2 doesn't really get less effective or potent, you'll just get ill by using it - but at least you'll have a lovely tan when you're in hospital with sepsis.


    This is why proper technique is essential when using injections - always using clean needles AND alcohol wipes for each and every injection.
    That's what makes my skin crawl with some of the suppliers out there who don't sell alcohol wipes with their kits, they cost pennies, it's not worth the risk.


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    The point of refrigeration is because the bacteria enter a phase where they can't reproduce as fast and everything is slowed down considerably. Freezing halts it completely.
    This is pretty much mandatory for sodium chloride/sterile water as a small contamination can become harmful quickly.


    Bacteriostatic water on the other hand contains anti-bacterial additives, and can 'fend off' minor contaminates.
    Refrigeration is still ideal because then you're getting the best of both parts.
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    Re: Loading Up Before Holiday

    Wow, now I'm confused. You mention:

    The inside of the bottles aren't sterile so wouldn't be suitable for injections, just nasal administration.

    I have no intentions of using it as a nasal spray as it just doesn't work for me. I thought I could preserve it in a nasal spray and use it with injections, but obviously I was wrong, so what "alternative" could you offer? So something that's not a vial, but you can take anywhere you want to without looking suspicious. Aren't there "sterile" nasal sprays suitable for injections?

    I know the B12 was discussed but how do you completely empty a B12 vial or where do you buy empty B12 colored vials you can label? It's a challenge but there should be a solution.
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    Re: Loading Up Before Holiday

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    Wow, now I'm confused. You mention]
    The inside of the bottles aren't sterile so wouldn't be suitable for injections, just nasal administration.

    I have no intentions of using it as a nasal spray as it just doesn't work for me. I thought I could preserve it in a nasal spray and use it with injections, but obviously I was wrong, so what "alternative" could you offer? So something that's not a vial, but you can take anywhere you want to without looking suspicious. Aren't there "sterile" nasal sprays suitable for injections?

    I know the B12 was discussed but how do you completely empty a B12 vial or where do you buy empty B12 colored vials you can label? It's a challenge but there should be a solution.
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    If you don't want to use it as nasal spray then that's pretty much out of the question.
    The inside of nasal spray bottles generally aren't sterile because they aren't air tight, allowing air to get in and also bacteria. Some have sealed tops which would be sterile, however you wouldn't be able to exchange the solution for MT2. You'd also need to be careful of the original contents if you could as you'd be pinning potentially dangerous levels of said substances.


    For Vitamin B12, you could buy a vial, remove the top - if you want, remove as much B12 as you can.
    If you have a minute amount of B12 left, when you dilute it with 1-2ml of MT2, it will be negligible - the best bit about this, it's safe for injection at much higher levels.


    We were considering emulating the vitamin B12 vials as a service of our website, however it's not economically feasible as the demand simply isn't there.
    I had some labels made up, but they just don't look quite believable if you've ever seen a real one before (mainly due to the coloured vials due to B12s sensitivity to light).

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    Re: Loading Up Before Holiday

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    This is why proper technique is essential when using injections - always using clean needles AND alcohol wipes for each and every injection.
    That's what makes my skin crawl with some of the suppliers out there who don't sell alcohol wipes with their kits, they cost pennies, it's not worth the risk.
    "

    What I was amazed by was the little amount of online videos about it. The ones I found were* prep and injection videos that were either very amateur, bad quality filming, bad audio, not in engish ( ]
    A professionally done video, with intro, detailed description, prep, inject would be welcome.





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    Re: Loading Up Before Holiday

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    This is why proper technique is essential when using injections - always using clean needles AND alcohol wipes for each and every injection.
    That's what makes my skin crawl with some of the suppliers out there who don't sell alcohol wipes with their kits, they cost pennies, it's not worth the risk.
    "

    What I was amazed by was the little amount of online videos about it. The ones I found were* prep and injection videos that were either very amateur, bad quality filming, bad audio, not in engish ( ]
    A professionally done video, with intro, detailed description, prep, inject would be welcome.
    "


    Were working on it! It's a pretty difficult thing to capture well, and in enough detail. Have a couple of good shots but not enough to make a full video yet.