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    Bacs Water

    I am in the uk and struggling to find bacs water online. Does anyone know where I can get it from? I won't be storing in a fridge so I will need to use bacs rather than sodium chloride. Thanks
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    Re: Bacs Water

    check your pm
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    Re: Bacs Water

    Bump, also in the market for bacs water in UK, can someone PM me a legit vendor?

    Thanks!
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    Re: Bacs Water

    When you're searching, make sure you can find independent reviews.


    We've placed many orders with people advertising Hospira water, and sending out anything ranging from unlabeled water vials to 'sterile water for injection' - which isn't bac water.
    Remember;
    If it's in a single use vial, or one where you have to snap the top, it's not bac water.
    If it's not in a vial with a genuine brand label (Hospira/APP), or there is no plastic cap (like your MT2), it's probably not bac water.
    -If the cap is missing the vial could be tampered with and should not be used.
    -If the label is missing or isn't a genuine brand, you could be using a homemade solution, or sterile water/sodium chloride - and paying one hell of a premium for nothing.


    The only reason we don't provide it is because there are currently no websites providing legitimate bacteriostatic water in the UK - at least not in the top few pages of google.


    Tom
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    Re: Bacs Water

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    I am in the uk and struggling to find bacs water online. Does anyone know where I can get it from? I won't be storing in a fridge so I will need to use bacs rather than sodium chloride. Thanks
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    I made it myself.
    Sterile sodium chloride 0,9% (sold as eyewash solution) + Benzyl Alcohol 0,9%.
    I inject 27 units BA, directly in a 30ml plastic container.
    The result is "Bacteriostatic Sodiumchloride 0,9%".
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    Re: Bacs Water

    @melanotano: I just wanted to post this myself. Haven't tried it though. How do you preserve it and how long before it expires?
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    Re: Bacs Water

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    I made it myself.
    Sterile sodium chloride 0,9% (sold as eyewash solution) + Benzyl Alcohol 0,9%.
    I inject 27 units BA, directly in a 30ml plastic container.
    The result is "Bacteriostatic Sodiumchloride 0,9%".
    "
    Do you use USP BA & filter the product into a sterile vial?
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    Re: Bacs Water

    @Djen
    I put the eyewash container, inside of an alcoholic sterilized vitamin glass.
    I use it 5 times or 3 months, and keep it in the refrigerator.

    @Melanotan
    No, just plain sterile eye wash, and just BA used for food preservation.
    Everything can easily be bought without a prescription.
    Maybe this is the secret why I no side effects gets and becomes dark brown :-)
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    Re: Bacs Water

    So how many ml of each ingredient do you use, how do you mix it and make sure it's sterile, so you mix it once every three months.
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    Re: Bacs Water

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    @Djen
    I put the eyewash container, inside of an alcoholic sterilized vitamin glass.
    I use it 5 times or 3 months, and keep it in the refrigerator.

    @Melanotan
    No, just plain sterile eye wash, and just BA used for food preservation.
    Everything can easily be bought without a prescription.
    Maybe this is the secret why I no side effects gets and becomes dark brown ]"

    Curious how long it takes to expire at room temp...
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    Re: Bacs Water

    @Djen
    Eyewash solution ARE 100% STERILE water, just added 0,9% Sodium Chloride. It is the same water that hospitals use to intravenous injection when patients are dehydrated.

    (30 ml water) x (0,9% BA) = 0,27 ml BA = 27 units
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    Re: Bacs Water

    thx, but how do you add the alcohol and how much exactly?
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    Re: Bacs Water

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    thx, but how do you add the alcohol and how much exactly?
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    BnOH is sold in a multi use vial, like your MT2/bac water, you withdraw it with a needle.


    You'll need sterile water for injection, wouldn't advise eyewash solutions myself but that's up to you.
    You'll also need a STERILE 5-40ml vial, the size is up to you.
    You'll also need some alcohol wipes.


    Using roughly 9 units of BnOH per 10ml (1000 units) of water will get you into the 0.9% range for volume, however I'm not sure if you should be measuring by weight, and so that calculation may be slightly off.


    I still wouldn't advise it for the average person though, as I know many have measuring issues and you need to be pretty damn close.


    Tom




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    Re: Bacs Water

    so how much benzyl alchohol do you add to a certain amount of sterile water? Using syringes could help to measure correctly.
    What brands would be the best?
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    Re: Bacs Water

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    so how much benzyl alchohol do you add to a certain amount of sterile water? Using syringes could help to measure correctly.
    What brands would be the best?
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    I said above]
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    Using roughly 9 units of BnOH per 10ml (1000 units) of water will get you into the 0.9% range for volume.
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    But I'm sure it's actually measured by weight so will be a little bit off because H2O (+NaCl) and BnOH have different densities, but you can't account for that in quantitites this small.
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    Re: Bacs Water

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    I still wouldn't advise it for the average person though, as I know many have measuring issues and you need to be pretty damn close.
    Tom
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    Totally agree.
    And especially because most people have little math skills.
    It was totally impossible for me to get sent Hospira bac-water to my country, so I had to make it myself and this does not worry me.
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    Re: Bacs Water

    So it's better to prepare larger quantities and measure the benzyl alcohol with a syringe?
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    Re: Bacs Water

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    So it's better to prepare larger quantities and measure the benzyl alcohol with a syringe?
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    YES
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    Re: Bacs Water

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    So it's better to prepare larger quantities and measure the benzyl alcohol with a syringe?
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    Yep, as the volume increases the minor variances in reading scales and precision decrease - but it all depends on your equipment, knowledge and experience.


    Basically it's 1000 units (10ml) of water for every 9 units to make it 0.9%.


    10ml = 9 units
    20ml = 18 units
    30ml = 27 units
    40ml = 36 units
    50ml = 45 units
    etc.