I just received my M2.* The company provided great documentation with the shipment.* I am planning on trying the nasal spray method, while reading the paperwork something scared me:
Potential health effects
Inhalation]
First aid measures]
After inhalation]
Kinda freaked me out.* Do you think this applies to inhalation nasally?* Could this just be a standard precaution not specific to M2* Anyone have any thoughts?
No, I think it's just a standard warning for a powder that is fairly potent. The nasal route is just another way to get the drug in your system, and you're going to do it in a controlled manner with small doses.
Good luck. This stuff has actually changed my life. It didn't make my life perfect or anything, but I don't have embarrassingly light pink skin anymore and I can go out in the sun like everybody else and have a good time.
Speaking of being in the sun, you should take things slowly as far as getting sun. Be patient. If you're taking regular doses of MT2 and getting sun little by little you can control things. For instance, when I first started being able to tolerate the sun and saw a tan for the first time in my life I started getting a lot of sun. I got strangely dark around my eyes and also developed some irregular freckles on my cheek that I didn't like. This year I've gone slower and put sunscreen on my face and arms when I'm out in the water and on the rest of my body if I going to be shirtless at the beach. I still have a really good tan but not the weird rings around my eyes and dark freckles.
Let us know how it goes and be sure to add to mt-anon-5000's great thread on the nasal spray topic.
Thanks fair skin and labpeptides.net!* I greatly appreciate your responses.
As soon as my nasal spray gets here I am beginning.* I am excited but very nervous at the same time...
I am a skin type 1, natural redhead, if there was a 0 that would be me.* I am hoping to achieve a tan for the first time in my life.* I leave for a cruise September 21st, I hope my skin is ready by then.
It's supprising how many people would describe themselves like that!
You can purchase a general spray from the supermarket/pharmacy - the thread here can shed some light on it.
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No, I think it's just a standard warning for a powder that is fairly potent. The nasal route is just another way to get the drug in your system, and you're going to do it in a controlled manner with small doses.
I have snorted the powder mt2. Hard to measure dose (impossible really).
It was at least a few mg. It sure did give me sides plus headache.!
Most of what I read in the past says spray is a much less effective method of
delivery.* Just my thoughts..
Good luck. This stuff has actually changed my life. It didn't make my life perfect or anything, but I don't have embarrassingly light pink skin anymore and I can go out in the sun like everybody else and have a good time.
Speaking of being in the sun, you should take things slowly as far as getting sun. Be patient. If you're taking regular doses of MT2 and getting sun little by little you can control things. For instance, when I first started being able to tolerate the sun and saw a tan for the first time in my life I started getting a lot of sun. I got strangely dark around my eyes and also developed some irregular freckles on my cheek that I didn't like. This year I've gone slower and put sunscreen on my face and arms when I'm out in the water and on the rest of my body if I going to be shirtless at the beach. I still have a really good tan but not the weird rings around my eyes and dark freckles.
Let us know how it goes and be sure to add to mt-anon-5000's great thread on the nasal spray topic.
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No, I think it's just a standard warning for a powder that is fairly potent. The nasal route is just another way to get the drug in your system, and you're going to do it in a controlled manner with small doses.
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I have snorted the powder mt2. Hard to measure dose (impossible really).
It was at least a few mg. It sure did give me sides plus headache.!
Most of what I read in the past says spray is a much less effective method of
delivery.* Just my thoughts..
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Not sure if it's just where you start typing, biut your quotes come out funny - you reply mid quote it seems.
The nasal route is roughly half as effective as subQ, I think it's due to quicker absorption and thus dispersion. You can increase the effectiveness by doing smaller more frequent doses - it will never match up, though.
But in the end, some people would rather lose slight efficiency for ease of use / fear of needles.
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No, I think it's just a standard warning for a powder that is fairly potent. The nasal route is just another way to get the drug in your system, and you're going to do it in a controlled manner with small doses.
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I have snorted the powder mt2. Hard to measure dose (impossible really).
It was at least a few mg. It sure did give me sides plus headache.!
Most of what I read in the past says spray is a much less effective method of
delivery.* Just my thoughts..
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Not sure if it's just where you start typing, biut your quotes come out funny - you reply mid quote it seems.
The nasal route is roughly half as effective as subQ, I think it's due to quicker absorption and thus dispersion. You can increase the effectiveness by doing smaller more frequent doses - it will never match up, though.
But in the end, some people would rather lose slight efficiency for ease of use / fear of needles.
Tom
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Yes, the mid post comment was intentional, since it mostly dealt with
powder form.
The one I am mega curious about is loading via insulin pump vs 1-qid.
Do you think the nasal one is going down the GI route? (the waste)
Nasal or sub lingual tends to be very effective at getting into blood.
Infusion pump, with same or probably less dose per day than single
injection _should_ help the body absorb all of it?
I have a Dr appointment soon and if my insurance will cover a pump,
I will be loading that way for sure in September.
My understanding of the pumps is that they can also give a bolus on
demand. So lets say I'm looking at 2mg/day but set it to 1mg over a
24hr period and zap in 1/2mg every 12 or just before tanning?
I can hardly wait, too bad one of the guys here who has a "small mt
business" could not get his act together to get me a sample qty. I'm
about to spend $200ish on vials but would have used his as loading (at
higher cost / mg).
That's unfortunate that fell through.
Pretty much spot on with the rest, from my understanding of discussions we've had. I work in PR/IT though, so not 100% ]
Tom
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That's unfortunate that fell through.
Pretty much spot on with the rest, from my understanding of discussions we've had. I work in PR/IT though, so not 100% ]
Tom
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Maybe I'm too close to it but when I send a reply to a direct email
within maybe 120sec and it takes him 18.5hrs to respond?
(the content said I need you to get me a paypal request by midnight)
7] (And paypal request)???
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That's unfortunate that fell through.
Pretty much spot on with the rest, from my understanding of discussions we've had. I work in PR/IT though, so not 100% ]
Tom
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Maybe I'm too close to it but when I send a reply to a direct email
within maybe 120sec and it takes him 18.5hrs to respond?
(the content said I need you to get me a paypal request by midnight)
7] (And paypal request)???
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Haha, that's terrible. We normally reply to direct emails within about 15 minutes, it may take slightly longer if we're snowed under, but never next day!
On a related note, there are a couple of insulin pump threads on here, although mainly for MT1, as the half life is shorter (~1h). It will work for Mt2 though, and should be interesting to see the results.
I bought some nasal spray today.* It is a thick gel.* I mixed some of it with the M2 then dumped it in the nasal spray.* It mixed fine with the M2, left a bit of residue on the side of the vial though.
My question is will the M2 mix evenly and well throughout the nasal spray since it is such a thick gel?* I gently rolled the bottle I am hesitant to shake the bottle.
Thanks!
This is the spray I bought]
http://www.neilmed.com/usa/nasogel.php
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