Nope, milligrams not ML.* You've spread 10 mg into 1 ML or 100 units on an insulin syringe, at least that's what I believe you're supposed to do.* In that event, 10 units would be 1 mg of PT-141, 50 units, .5 ml, would equal 5 mg of PT-141.*
So far I am scared and concerned:
1. I used much higher doses (by mistake]2. No reaction - except 5-6 hours erection - BUT no perception change or other change !!
I would give anything for positive results, but so far - nothing.
I injected 2 days ago 12-13 units; today (at 16]
I had extra long night erections, but I expected a change in "libido", some excitement...
I do not understand why I do not have at least 30% of this:
"first time I used it, it felt like I was 15 yrs old again.* It was unbelievable.* When I get erections it makes my whole body feel good.* I really can only compare to when you were very young and anything that touched it felt good.* If you have taken Viagra or Cialis before this is nothing like that.* I have taken those and all they do is give you a hard-on, they don't make you "desire" to have sex.* I took Viagra once with an ex that I was bored with in the sack......I was rock hard and still had no interest in nailing her.* This stuff makes you desire your partner.* I took this with the same gf and it made me want to fuck her all night." -- FROM ONE OF THE POST I READ
That was my hope !
May be I need time do adapt to this ?
Should I try 20 units ("large") dose ?
Expectations are difficult to gauge for everyone.* You could be a non-responder or have too much stress.* PT-141 is not like heroin, mdma, ghb or whatever recreational mind altering drug that is great to fu(k on.* The desire/aphrodisiac from brem is subtle and varies.* 2mg dose would be my next and last trial if I were in your shoes shogun (if it delivers erections yet fails to effect your drive...not sure I would be excited to use PT again)
I wish I could help you, but I get a great reaction from a mere .6 mg dose - I can be in the car and when my thoughts turn to my wife's body...I definitely get a pretty serious itch that viagra and its cousins do not give. *My main complaint is that the itch doesn't go away for about 24 hours. *
Perhaps some other medications you are taking are interfering? *Not enough sleep?
I believe the desire felt and reported on by users comes out organically.* Those seeking specifically the desire are faced unique obstacles.* Often the Melanotan II users first notice the erections and slowly take note of the desire.* The reach of the melanocortin stimulation and sensitivity varies so greatly...likely the reason these peptides will not see FDA approval anytime soon
Years of experience with bremelanotide, I am able to dial in a dose which takes me back to when I was 18 years old (sexual male prime) and 13 yrs old (puberty spontaneous erection and desire - as well as boner on site of teacher on desk or bent over -> so the silhouette or thought of the wife can lead to excitement* -* and forget about riding a bicycle on too much melanotan peptide, )...best of so many worlds!* All the reports are credible on PT.* It is such a challenge and art to put the experience down on paper.
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Could you please explain the difference with Melatonin II you mentioned ?
How different it is from PT in terms of stimulating desire ?
Best,
S.
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Melanotan II users are often seeking a tan and peripherally experience the aphrodisiac.* It's not different.* It hits the couple of melanocortin receptors, just like MT-II (MC3R & MC4R).*
Hi !
I still can not believe that I have ONLY night erection about 7-9 hours after injection.
I ordered fresh PT from Tan R - may be I had the wrong (old) stuff.
If I am a healthy person - how can I have so different results from a majority ?
"Non-responders" may exist, but may be they have some other health problems ?
Also, I do not understand how stress may be a factor - PT was developed to HELP when stress greatly diminishes the desire !
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Hi !
I still can not believe that I have ONLY night erection about 7-9 hours after injection.
I ordered fresh PT from Tan R - may be I had the wrong (old) stuff.
If I am a healthy person - how can I have so different results from a majority ?
"Non-responders" may exist, but may be they have some other health problems ?
Also, I do not understand how stress may be a factor - PT was developed to HELP when stress greatly diminishes the desire !
OK, will try some more...
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The melancortinergic pathway can be rapidly recruited by emotional stress.* MC4R sensitivity, body composition and stress (Corticotropin releasing hormone CRH) are reasons why results vary.* Best of luck on the next vial shogun.* I believe injecting PT into a high stress environment skews results - just a theory of my own
I am still trying to find out why it does not work for me:
1. The window of any reaction in my case is between 6 and 8 hours - UNpractical enough- but this is not my major concern -
2. It does give long erection with short breaks for hours- what it does not give]* (a) any desire increase
* (b) any better feeling - so longer action is not a result too
I was told that stress and PT do not mix. I find this a negation of the drug]With not enough money to provide all of the above - and money could help here - desperate people turn to PT.
For me this experience is a source of big pain - I am not trying to criticize PT - I am trying to see how it will work for me. All regular drugs work fine for me, like Z-pack or tylenol, etc.
May be I need to inject in different place - does this matter ?* May be I need to try 3mg dose ?* I will try some more attempts.
Very best regards,
S.
One more question: do I need to keep dry powder vials in the freezer ?
(I do).
I only place the dissolved (with water) stuff in a regular refrigerator section.
Is this correct ?
P.S. Can some time at room temperature destroy any of this stuff ?
How old are you, Shogun?* Age may make a difference in how you react.
I'm 65 and my reaction to PT-141 isn't quite like what most men here say. I don't have really hard throbbing erections thinking about sex unless I take viagra or some other ED drug like cialis or levitra.* On Pt-141, my reaction to ED drugs is much stronger and longer-lasting than without it.*
My libido doesn't increase a huge amount as others have reported.
I have taken a max of 2.5mg of PT-141, and then I notice I stretch and yawn more and get more pleasure from that. I do get a few more spontaneous erections for up to a day or two after that big dose, but I also have some brief periods of nausea throughout that period, while I only have one brief period of nausea about five minutes after injecting with a smaller dose.
I just plan my sexual encounters by injecting PT about 8 to 12 hours before sex and then take an ED drug an hour or so before sex.
Hi !
I am 50, but extremely athletic with ideal testosterone level and blood pressure.
I just need more (and more with time) to be aroused - I thought, PT is a miracle (based on the descriptions I read).
It is deeply disappointing]with a young beauty with great affection- MOST men would not need anything !!
I will still experiment, but it was a very bad thing for me- after I decided to go with injections- to discover that
NOTHING works as described !