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  1. #1 7th January 2011 
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    My First Melanotan Experience

    Hi !
    So far, mixed](10mg in 1ML of water-> injected 0.5ML (50 units))
    S.
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    Re: First try

    That's a pretty huge dose!* 7 units usually is enough to make me wish it would wear off after about 6 hours!
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    Re: First try - now I am very confused >>>

    First, PLEASE, let us speak in normal measurements: grams and liters.

    I have 10 MG vials.
    I added 1 ML of BS water into a vial.
    So, I have 1 ML of solution, correct.

    Small dose was defined as 0.5 ML, medium - as 1 ML, and large as 2 ML, right ??

    So, my 0.5 ML dose was small AND we have TWO such doses per vial, right ?

    Please, correct me if I am wrong.

    Regards.
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    Re: First try

    Nope, milligrams not ML.* You've spread 10 mg into 1 ML or 100 units on an insulin syringe, at least that's what I believe you're supposed to do.* In that event, 10 units would be 1 mg of PT-141, 50 units, .5 ml, would equal 5 mg of PT-141.*

    So how did it work out?

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    Re: First try

    So far I am scared and concerned:
    1. I used much higher doses (by mistake]2. No reaction - except 5-6 hours erection - BUT no perception change or other change !!

    I will experiment more !

    Thank you.
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    Re: First try

    I would give anything for positive results, but so far - nothing.
    I injected 2 days ago 12-13 units; today (at 16]
    I had extra long night erections, but I expected a change in "libido", some excitement...
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    Re: First try

    I do not understand why I do not have at least 30% of this:
    "first time I used it, it felt like I was 15 yrs old again.* It was unbelievable.* When I get erections it makes my whole body feel good.* I really can only compare to when you were very young and anything that touched it felt good.* If you have taken Viagra or Cialis before this is nothing like that.* I have taken those and all they do is give you a hard-on, they don't make you "desire" to have sex.* I took Viagra once with an ex that I was bored with in the sack......I was rock hard and still had no interest in nailing her.* This stuff makes you desire your partner.* I took this with the same gf and it made me want to fuck her all night." -- FROM ONE OF THE POST I READ

    That was my hope !

    May be I need time do adapt to this ?
    Should I try 20 units ("large") dose ?

    Please help !
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    Re: First try

    Expectations are difficult to gauge for everyone.* You could be a non-responder or have too much stress.* PT-141 is not like heroin, mdma, ghb or whatever recreational mind altering drug that is great to fu(k on.* The desire/aphrodisiac from brem is subtle and varies.* 2mg dose would be my next and last trial if I were in your shoes shogun (if it delivers erections yet fails to effect your drive...not sure I would be excited to use PT again)
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    Re: First try

    I wish I could help you, but I get a great reaction from a mere .6 mg dose - I can be in the car and when my thoughts turn to my wife's body...I definitely get a pretty serious itch that viagra and its cousins do not give. *My main complaint is that the itch doesn't go away for about 24 hours. *

    Perhaps some other medications you are taking are interfering? *Not enough sleep?
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    Re: First try

    I believe the desire felt and reported on by users comes out organically.* Those seeking specifically the desire are faced unique obstacles.* Often the Melanotan II users first notice the erections and slowly take note of the desire.* The reach of the melanocortin stimulation and sensitivity varies so greatly...likely the reason these peptides will not see FDA approval anytime soon

    Years of experience with bremelanotide, I am able to dial in a dose which takes me back to when I was 18 years old (sexual male prime) and 13 yrs old (puberty spontaneous erection and desire - as well as boner on site of teacher on desk or bent over -> so the silhouette or thought of the wife can lead to excitement* -* and forget about riding a bicycle on too much melanotan peptide, )...best of so many worlds!* All the reports are credible on PT.* It is such a challenge and art to put the experience down on paper.
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    Re: First try

    Thank you very much for your reply.

    First, I will try to experiment more, of course, with combination of drugs.
    I will also obtain fresh PT and will try it.

    Could you please explain the difference with Melatonin II you mentioned ?
    How different it is from PT in terms of stimulating desire ?

    Best,
    S.
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    Re: First try

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    Could you please explain the difference with Melatonin II you mentioned ?
    How different it is from PT in terms of stimulating desire ?

    Best,
    S.
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    Melanotan II users are often seeking a tan and peripherally experience the aphrodisiac.* It's not different.* It hits the couple of melanocortin receptors, just like MT-II (MC3R & MC4R).*
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    Re: First try

    Hi !
    I still can not believe that I have ONLY night erection about 7-9 hours after injection.
    I ordered fresh PT from Tan R - may be I had the wrong (old) stuff.

    If I am a healthy person - how can I have so different results from a majority ?
    "Non-responders" may exist, but may be they have some other health problems ?

    Also, I do not understand how stress may be a factor - PT was developed to HELP when stress greatly diminishes the desire !

    OK, will try some more...
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    Re: First try

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    Hi !
    I still can not believe that I have ONLY night erection about 7-9 hours after injection.
    I ordered fresh PT from Tan R - may be I had the wrong (old) stuff.

    If I am a healthy person - how can I have so different results from a majority ?
    "Non-responders" may exist, but may be they have some other health problems ?

    Also, I do not understand how stress may be a factor - PT was developed to HELP when stress greatly diminishes the desire !

    OK, will try some more...
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    The melancortinergic pathway can be rapidly recruited by emotional stress.* MC4R sensitivity, body composition and stress (Corticotropin releasing hormone CRH) are reasons why results vary.* Best of luck on the next vial shogun.* I believe injecting PT into a high stress environment skews results - just a theory of my own
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    Re: First try...several tries after...

    I am still trying to find out why it does not work for me:
    1. The window of any reaction in my case is between 6 and 8 hours - UNpractical enough- but this is not my major concern -
    2. It does give long erection with short breaks for hours- what it does not give]* (a) any desire increase
    * (b) any better feeling - so longer action is not a result too

    I was told that stress and PT do not mix. I find this a negation of the drug]With not enough money to provide all of the above - and money could help here - desperate people turn to PT.

    For me this experience is a source of big pain - I am not trying to criticize PT - I am trying to see how it will work for me. All regular drugs work fine for me, like Z-pack or tylenol, etc.

    May be I need to inject in different place - does this matter ?* May be I need to try 3mg dose ?* I will try some more attempts.
    Very best regards,
    S.
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    Re: First try

    One more question: do I need to keep dry powder vials in the freezer ?
    (I do).
    I only place the dissolved (with water) stuff in a regular refrigerator section.

    Is this correct ?

    P.S. Can some time at room temperature destroy any of this stuff ?
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    Re: First try

    How old are you, Shogun?* Age may make a difference in how you react.
    I'm 65 and my reaction to PT-141 isn't quite like what most men here say. I don't have really hard throbbing erections thinking about sex unless I take viagra or some other ED drug like cialis or levitra.* On Pt-141, my reaction to ED drugs is much stronger and longer-lasting than without it.*
    My libido doesn't increase a huge amount as others have reported.
    I have taken a max of 2.5mg of PT-141, and then I notice I stretch and yawn more and get more pleasure from that. I do get a few more spontaneous erections for up to a day or two after that big dose, but I also have some brief periods of nausea throughout that period, while I only have one brief period of nausea about five minutes after injecting with a smaller dose.
    I just plan my sexual encounters by injecting PT about 8 to 12 hours before sex and then take an ED drug an hour or so before sex.
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    Re: First try

    Hi !
    I am 50, but extremely athletic with ideal testosterone level and blood pressure.
    I just need more (and more with time) to be aroused - I thought, PT is a miracle (based on the descriptions I read).
    It is deeply disappointing]with a young beauty with great affection- MOST men would not need anything !!

    I will still experiment, but it was a very bad thing for me- after I decided to go with injections- to discover that
    NOTHING works as described !

    Will report my results.
    Best regards,
    S.