Something strange has been happening lately. I'm experiencing a sudden loss of vascularity everywhere. My hands and feet are cold all the time. Less energy than usual. Muscles look flat. I'm on HGH 2iu ed + 500 mg metformin work meals to combat insulin resistance. Just started clomid @ 50 mg ed. I took 12.5mcg T3 for the first time today and it helped a LOT! But I'm still concerned about it all... What could be causing this??
Why are you taking all these hormones?
it all started last year when I came off steroids.. Waited.. Didn't recover.. Started monitoring blood levels. I was shutdown ...so clomid Is an attempt at a hpta restart. HGH because needed to recover from multiple injuries and hoping it will regrow leydig cells as part of restart. T3 first time today because I just wanted to feel better. Metformin to combat the insulin resistance that the GH might cause. The attempt was to feel better but something isn't quite right obviously. Hoping to figure this out with the help of some advice here...
I'm sure you have low t4 levels go check and stop using too much, also clomid will not restart your hpta you need a proper pct, and how did you know you are shut down? Did you do blood test and your doctor said you are shut down?
Thanks for the inputs Will. I checked t4 levels last week. it was 95. Are you referring to low t4 because of the gh which causes t4 suppression? I am on clomid now after trying to kickstart the hpta with hcg monotherapy 250iu eod. Worked well for first few days but crashed badly after two weeks. Left with t levels of 230 so started on clomid(today is day 4)... yes, I concluded the shutdown after bloodwork. test was 280. LH FSH were borderline low after 6 months off the AAS..
Shutdown means you will not produce any testosterone so 280 is not shut down, but 6 month is not enough for recovery, some people need a year or more to recover so let your body take its time.
Things you mentioned reminds me of my bad thyroid and issues I deal with...I'm 47 my thyroid starting failing around 40
Even so Will, even so.. All the symptoms of low t were there and that made life far too miserable to wait it out. Therapy had to undertaken... But I guess that's not working either. Damn.Originally Posted by Will
How do you know your HGH is real?
I can only guess and speculate with reason. I think it's real because I feel the carpal tunnel coming on. It comes straight from the pharmacy. A friend used the same brand and had carpal tunnel at 4 iu. This suggests it's not fake or under dosed. Any particular reason why you suspect otherwise?
The vast majority of "GH" on the black market is bunk, fake, underdosed and/or crap. No wonder, since it is about 100x more expensive and difficult to produce than AAS. And consider the quality of black market AAS in general, as shown by studies, well then... That being said, if it comes from a pharmacy, that's a good start, but not a guarantee if in Asia. What is the brand?
Insulin is a vasodialitor. If you are artificially keeping it low, this might result in less venous blood flow = kold hands and feet and less vascularity. Try lowering the metformin dose.
Why do you take HGH ? Personally I do not think it is a good choice
GH causing more problems than its solving. Decided to discontinue starting now. There are no free lunches in pharmacology I was told... Wise words.
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