i am not an expert but i think taking mt-1 the nasal route will not be that effective,
for mt-2 you need twice the dose nasaly (not tried my self yet but from reading overhere)
to get well tanned with mt-1 you need at least 60mg (injection way) so that will be 120mg for nasal method
that will be a lot of sprays.*
the molecuul of mt-1 is larger then mt-2 will this have any influence in absorbtion rate by the mucous membrane ?
Hi, I`m new here.
It would be interesting to know, how it is going with the nasal experiment? (sorry about my english, its not my first language.
Cheers,
Bobby
Going very well. I have a great tan from the nasal spray and 2 UV sessions a week. It looks like I've already been on holidays. Been a very normal MT-2 experience, except, instead of once a day injection, I'm doing 4 sprays, 3 times a day. Best part of all is that, when I leave in just over a week for vacation, I'll be able to take my nasal spray with me.
Sounds great! Thank you for your update.
I think about starting with nasal spray too. But actually, I would prefer MT1, because I don`t want/need the effects like losing weight and getting erections. I read, it seems to be impossible with MT1 and nasal spray...would it be worth a test, or is it of sure absolutely senseless? What do you think]
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I have no experience with MT-1, so can't comment. Between the molecule being larger and the high doses required I'd say it's not looking good at all.
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Hey Bobby, mt-anon hit the nail on the head. MT-1 administered as a nasal spray would not be efficacious in the least. Further, melanocortin agonists are systemic & are not known to have greater effect locally.
Thanx for your answers. So I`m going to order MT2.
Maybe a language-problem. I understand, how it works over the mucous membrane. I try to explain in other words, what I meant. (I know]Sorry if this is a stupid question.
No, it's okay to ask. I can't see that taking it into the nasal passage puts you at any additional risk. Technically it puts you at less risk--because if your injection procedure isn't done properly you could get an infection.
For someone who's never tried M2 before how what do you think of going with low doses (50mcg-150mcg) until desired tan has been achieved and then maintain with M2 nasal spray? I'm a skin type 1, ginger, btw.
I really want to try MT1 but can't bring myself to inject.* So I am going to try the nasal spray with MT1.* I will keep you all posted.
I think I will try exactly what Anon is doing as far as the reconstiting process with the nasal spray.* I know more MT1 is needed than MT2 but I want to start extremely low.* Therefore; I thought that I would try 6 sprays twice a day.
Any thoughts/ advice???
BTW, wikepedia lists one of the routes for MT1 as intranasal.
I've been using melanotan-free-tan, 2 sprays twice daily and have found that it works great. Had a slight headache the first time I used it but no other side effects since. I might up the dose as summer approaches, just didn't want to go unnaturally dark over winter.
I saw melanotan-free-tan advertised online.* I am very interested, what are the ingredients if it is melanotan free?* I just want to know what I am getting myself into.
I search the web for information about it and can only find their website.
For someone who's never tried M2 before how what do you think of going with low doses (50mcg-150mcg) until desired tan has been achieved and then maintain with M2 nasal spray? I'm a skin type 1, ginger, btw.
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I'm extremely sensitive to MT-2, and I've found that 150mcg is what was needed to meaningfully tan--and I tan pretty easily without it. My feeling is that you may want to be in the range of 200-250, as your low dose, to get your tan. Even then, you'll have to be patient. For low dosing--injection, nasal spray... either one. Just remember that if you're doing 200mcg sub-q, you'll need about 400-450mcg nasally--with no post nasal drip of the solution (that's loss of MT-2 down the back of your throat).
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I really want to try MT1 but can't bring myself to inject.* So I am going to try the nasal spray with MT1.* I will keep you all posted.
I think I will try exactly what Anon is doing as far as the reconstiting process with the nasal spray.* I know more MT1 is needed than MT2 but I want to start extremely low.* Therefore; I thought that I would try 6 sprays twice a day.
Any thoughts/ advice???
BTW, wikepedia lists one of the routes for MT1 as intranasal.
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I would be very surprised to find out that MT-1 is feasible at all as a nasal spray. Let us know your results!*
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Stubell,
I saw melanotan-free-tan advertised online.* I am very interested, what are the ingredients if it is melanotan free?* I just want to know what I am getting myself into.
I search the web for information about it and can only find their website.
Thanks!
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Hey Beccalina, I have also noticed melanotan-free-tan's advertising campaign. They simply use cheap domains + coupons (google ppc) to promote their product (illegally...as it's against terms of service and will not last long). The product is likely water or sodium chloride w/ mt-2 added prior to shipping. Mt-anon-5000's method is just as good if not better
So, back from my vacation to the Caribbean ... lots of questions to answer and lots of things to report. I'll address them in point form]
1. I've found that I have really been able to desensitize myself to MT-2 through the nasal spray, in a way that I never could with sub-q injection. I've done as many as 30 sprays in a day--as much as 500mcg in the blood. Something I never thought was possible in a million years! I'm sensitive to MT-2 to the ridiculous extreme, as I've documented in another thread.
2. I mixed up a batch the day that I left. I used it all vacation (1 week) and am still using it. It has never been refrigerated and I've not noticed any perceivable drop in potency.
3. I am dark. I mean, I'm really dark. I had a really good base before I went, and spent 4 days in the sun total while I was there, for about 4.5 hours per day. I used 15 spf the first day, 8 on day 2 and 3, and no sun screen on day 4.
4. I always make sure that I never overwhelm my nasal cavity with solution or the peptide. 4 sprays at a time (about 65mcg), spread throughout the day, making sure that my nasal cavity has dried in between. No post nasal drip, if I can help it.
5. When I was getting my base in the salon I wasn't turning as brown as fast as I would have thought. I suspected that it was because the sun gives you a far better tan, but I didn't want to discount the possibility that MT-2 wasn't as effective through nasal spray. That has been debunked completely--it's purely down to the fact that tanning beds suck compared to the sun.
6. The guy who said that he was doing 10mg a week of nasal spray and it did nothing ... he was either not using MT-2 or was doing something catastrophically wrong--like it all ending up in his stomach. I've used about 10mg in about 9 days and am very very dark--and I, of course, had lots of UV. However, I'd never get this dark this fast without MT-2.
7. I will never go back to injecting again. The ease, the portability, how exact I can be with dosing, spreading out dosing, stopping right before I feel too sick, and ultimately the results--just as good as injection--albeit I've used twice as much MT-2. I get it cheap though, I can afford it and it's worth it to me for the convenience a thousand times over.
I think that just about covers it. If I think of anything else I'll post. Feel free to fire away with any intelligent questions.
Thank you for your great information about the nasal Spray.
I`ve ordered 3 vials MT-2 and will start in a few days with the Nasal Spray Experiment. (going to document in a separate thread).
Could you please explain me, how did you started? How many times a day how many sprays? Bought a 30ml Nasal Spray and will count the number of sprays with water, to find out, how many sprays the whole container is. I think, it should be identical like yours.
- I bought a bottle that listed that it had 300 sprays on it. If you can't find a bottle that tells you how many measured doses, by 2 of the same bottle, deplete one to find out the sprays, and then use the second one for mixing and dosing.
- I dose 4 sprays at a time. Each spray is 33mcg. 4X33mcg = 132mcg. Assuming a 50% absorption rate that means that every 4 sprays = approx. 66mcg in the blood.
- I dosed 4 sprays at a time (2 in each nostril) because I found that if I did more than 2 sprays in a nostril at a time that it would start to run down the back of my throat. That amounts to a loss. The key is allowing it to sit on the mucous membrane until it's basically dry--allowing it maximum time to cross the mucosal barrier.
- I think I dosed 10 sprays the first day. I would increase the dosage according to how I felt, and spread them throughout the day. Certainly before I tanned and then immediately after. I stuck with 12 sprays for quite a while. Then 16. Personal preference from this point on for you.
I used MT couple of times in the past. I stopped almost 3 years ago because I suffered from bad allergy symptoms throughout my usage. my body simply reject the peptide.
Do you think that there is a chance that my body won't reject MT if I will use it through the nasal method? maybe in a small amounts?*
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