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    Re: Cure for gingerness

    no face tan so far. The eyebrows took two months to start. Maybe another carrier could even work beter. Yes it's ginger.
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    Re: Cure for gingerness

    GL200 has little to no skin penetration. SP100 would be what you're after.
    Not sure what additive it is, but apparently it works.
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    Re: Cure for gingerness

    Winkey claims they don't know the percentage LMC is using. I told them a batch costs 11 dollars, if their batches happen to cost a lot more, then they have to give a serious explanation for that. Something like: we're using a better concentration won't do as they don't know anything about LMC.
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    Re: Cure for gingerness

    They could make a pretty fair assumption based on cost.
    Alternatively, LMC could have commissioned the production of 1kg of AH1, rather than a few grams. This would have made the synthesis cost plummet. As they are selling this en masse to people such as piz buin and others, they can shift it.
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    Re: Cure for gingerness

    I am sorry to tell you that we just sell cosmetic peptide raw material.Because our company is manufacturer and wholesales.But don't worry,our product can be used directly.If you would like to purchase we can reduce MOQ for you
    For liquid ?the MOQ of melitane is 500g and the price is 162USD.Shipping price is 50USD.So the total price will be 212USD.
    By the way,you can mix it with DMI to get better result.

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    Jackson
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    In a previous email they said it should be mixed 1:9, that would mean 5000 grams final product.* Have asked them this question now.
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    That's right.You are clever.
    For example,you can mix 10ml peptide with 10ml DMI and 80ml Water.So* you can get 5000ml final product.
    If you have any more question.Feel free to contact me.
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    PS I noticed some new eyebrow hairs, they're still darker than my natural color, but not as dark as the hairs I found first. My guess]Guess the Winkey product's price is reasonable. If the strength is really better, it should give deeper darkening I suppose.
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    Re: Cure for gingerness

    Thanks you for your great affords in researching this stuff.
    I'm following your progress and maybe will try it in the near future. I would like to find a product that will give me some hair pigmentation and wont involve injections.

    You don't see any darkening in your facial-hair\scalp-hair?
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    Re: Cure for gingerness

    I haven't tried it to facial hair but I suppose it would be the same, as Winkey's product is stronger than what I've used so far, it should work;
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    Re: Cure for gingerness

    Have winkey told you a* concentration for that 500g order?
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    Re: Cure for gingerness

    Good point, Tom. That's the question I'm going to ask them now. Hopefully it won't be their secret potion.
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    Re: Cure for gingerness

    Imagine if they're making it for you they have to match your requirements, and that requires knowing the concentration :p
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    Re: Cure for gingerness

    It does sound logical that you don't order secret potions. Imagine I'd have a company then I couldn't tell my clients what they're buying.
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    Re: Cure for gingerness

    "It may or may not be stronger than the competitors, but it is cheaper!" Doesn't sound like a very good sales pitch.
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    Re: Cure for gingerness

    In the end they'll have to convince me why I'd go for them and not for another company.
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    Also very appreciative of your trials with this Djen. Following this thread closely and excited to hear your results on it. Would be awesome to have an alternative to MT2 for hair darkening* 8)
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    Re: Cure for gingerness

    Hey Bob, it's so nice to hear from you. As I mentioned a few posts earlier: twice a day applications seem to have a better effect so I reckon an even better concentration would even be better. It really takes about two months to see results. I hope the greys will follow but it's logical that white hair would take longer. On the LEF board some people claim a combo with pseudocatalase would be necessary for the whites. I think we have to wait and see.
    Hopefully Winkey is willing to give me the concentration.
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    Re: Cure for gingerness

    Normally,our solution contains 0.05% active ingredient(melitane),but we can adjust it according to your request?0.01%-0.1%?.Good night?
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    Re: Cure for gingerness

    I went again through the whole discussion and I don't understand something -
    Maybe this is a stupid question, but You spoke about the compound that suits tan face, and spoke about* compound that works for hair pigmentation. Why there are differences between them? After all, both you spread on the skin (scalp or face-skin).

    Did I misunderstood the fact that to apply it, I need to spread it on the hair itself?

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    Re: Cure for gingerness

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    Normally,our solution contains 0.05% active ingredient(melitane),but we can adjust it according to your request?0.01%-0.1%?.Good night?
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    0.05 is still stronger than 0.016.

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    I went again through the whole discussion and I don't understand something -
    Maybe this is a stupid question, but You spoke about the compound that suits tan face, and spoke about* compound that works for hair pigmentation. Why there are differences between them? After all, both you spread on the skin (scalp or face-skin).

    Did I misunderstood the fact that to apply it, I need to spread it on the hair itself?

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    It's because the GL200 has a glycerin carrier to allow the follicle penetration. The SP100 has parabens and other additives that gear it toward skin penetration.

    GL200 is normally diluted with water and sprayed for hair application.
    SP100 is normally made into a cream base and applied that way.

    -I wouldn't quote that as fact, but that's my understanding of it from my discussions here, reading elsewhere and contact with an LMC supplier-

    Tom
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    Re: Cure for gingerness

    Thanks, Tom. So it's three times as strong as what I've used so far. Doesn't sound bad. Would you try this or ask them to double the dosage?