Is anyone taking S4?? I never heard anyone talk about it here.
It's outdated, nasty thing. Noone liked the side effects and they usually scared people off. There are new, different drugs now.Originally Posted by Dirk
What would be the replacement for S4? Are you suggesting S23?
Heelllll no. New data shows its pretty suppressive.
If you need to dry out, drop your estrogen with aromatase inhibitor or use YK11. If you need to lose fat, ostarine, rad and yk can handle that.
Damn I have some s4 sitting here, was thinking to use it for my next cut.. if the sides are not permanent and it is an effective compound would you still recommend using it?
Its pretty great for cutting to be honest, especially if you already bought and paid for it lol. If you can stand the side effects then by all means, do it.
S4 gave a lot of people vision problems. I think it's not worth the side effects.
Wow, well that defintiely sounds like one to stay away from. If I ever end up taking peptides I am going to make sure that is not on the list. I think it sounds like one to definitely stay away from at all costs. It is just bad news apparently.
The vision issue from the S4 is real. It's bearable, but annoying as hell. It will help you cut, on a caloric deficit, and hiit cardio. The strength gains are there if you're coming off nothing, or it will help you stay where you are, if you're bridging. I'd personally go 6-8 weeks on it, if you can handle the vision issues.
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