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    1st sarm cycle

    Dear Friends, I have now bought everything I need to start my 1st SARMS cycle.
    I am going for:
    Cardarine gw 25mgs/ed
    Andarine s4 50mgs/ed split AM/PM
    Nutrobal mk677 25mgs/ed
    Last thing I need to know is what time of day should I take this stuff ? Also on an empty stomach or after food?
    Thanks guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlyd View Post
    Dear Friends, I have now bought everything I need to start my 1st SARMS cycle.
    I am going for:
    Cardarine gw 25mgs/ed
    Andarine s4 50mgs/ed split AM/PM
    Nutrobal mk677 25mgs/ed
    Last thing I need to know is what time of day should I take this stuff ? Also on an empty stomach or after food?
    Thanks guys.
    Take it in the morning with food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edz View Post
    Take it in the morning with food.
    Interesting as most state the MK should be taken at night before bed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlyd View Post
    Interesting as most state the MK should be taken at night before bed?
    It doesn't matter because it has a 24hr half life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlyd View Post
    Interesting as most state the MK should be taken at night before bed?
    That's to avoid the hunger.
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    So everyone agrees this cycle should be taken in the morning with food ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlyd View Post
    So everyone agrees this cycle should be taken in the morning with food ?
    Night gives you all the benefits and keeps the worst of the hunger away from you. It CAN be taken whenever you want, but most do it before sleep.
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    Charly, if you try to eat in a calorie surplus - taking MK-677 in the morning is the better option. If in a deficit - then at night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idealer View Post
    Charly, if you try to eat in a calorie surplus - taking MK-677 in the morning is the better option. If in a deficit - then at night.
    Ok Thanks, I'm on a calories deficit so bedtime it is. Will that be the same for the GW and S4?

    Finally (and probably a stupid question) the MK-677 is in liquid form, do I take it orally straight from the syringe or mix it with something?
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    You can take GW in the morning so you'll have tons of endurance for your workouts. I've read the half life is 24 hours but also 12 so not quite sure if you need to split dose or not. But the full dosage 30-60 mins prior workout is good no matter the active half life.

    Not sure about S4, but I assume that you can take it together with GW. I think the half life of S4 is a bit short, so you might need to split dose. However I'm not 100 % sure, would appreciate if someone elaborated on this.

    You can take the liquid straight from the syringe if you can handle the taste. If not - mix it with something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlyd View Post
    Ok Thanks, I'm on a calories deficit so bedtime it is. Will that be the same for the GW and S4?

    Finally (and probably a stupid question) the MK-677 is in liquid form, do I take it orally straight from the syringe or mix it with something?
    Take S4 during the day, especially before training.
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    So the consensus seems to be MK-677 before bed to avoid hunger craves, GW and S4 approximately 1 hour before working out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlyd View Post
    So the consensus seems to be MK-677 before bed to avoid hunger craves, GW and S4 approximately 1 hour before working out?
    Yeah I think that's about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idealer View Post
    Yeah I think that's about it.
    Well I'm getting on it tonight - so I'll post back with my findings in due course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlyd View Post
    Well I'm getting on it tonight - so I'll post back with my findings in due course.
    Good luck! It probably takes a while to 'feel' both MK-677 and S4 (I think), but GW you should be able to feel an increase in endurance just after a couple of days
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    I take mine in pill form with my breakfast meal. Not using any of those yet, I am using LGD and Ostarine at this time. Going to buy GW this week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlyd View Post
    Dear Friends, I have now bought everything I need to start my 1st SARMS cycle.
    I am going for:
    Cardarine gw 25mgs/ed
    Andarine s4 50mgs/ed split AM/PM
    Nutrobal mk677 25mgs/ed
    Last thing I need to know is what time of day should I take this stuff ? Also on an empty stomach or after food?
    Thanks guys.
    GW is overdosed, the S4 is underdosed, and you only need to start off with 10mg of the MK-677.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soccpla View Post
    GW is overdosed, the S4 is underdosed, and you only need to start off with 10mg of the MK-677.
    25 mg GW is just fine. 20 mg is like normal - 5 mg extra won't be too much... maybe anyone else care to elaborate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by guga View Post
    25 mg GW is just fine. 20 mg is like normal - 5 mg extra won't be too much... maybe anyone else care to elaborate?
    He's 100% right, 20mg is a high-normal dose and the S4 is low. The MK-677 part is wrong though, start at 25 for a normal dose. 12.5 if you're stingy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hulk View Post
    He's 100% right, 20mg is a high-normal dose and the S4 is low. The MK-677 part is wrong though, start at 25 for a normal dose. 12.5 if you're stingy.
    What do you suggest for the S4 and GW then?

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