1st cycle PCT

[Other]

I am 27
175cm
86kg
Been training for more then 2 years.

This is my first cycle. Starting with Testosterone Enanthate

Cycle:
12 week cycle
Test-E 250mg/x2 times a week

I have read a lot of various PCT protocols so here is some questions:

Should I use some thing like Tamoxifen during the entire 12 wk cycle and during the PCT afterward?

Is it necessary to use Clomid + Tamoxifen + A-dex in my PCT?

Finally I have heard a lot of different doses of each PCT drug to use. What is the best plan and protocoland the duration of the PCT?

[AdamW]

Basic PCT 2 weeks after last injection Tamoxifen 40/40/20/20 Clomid 100/50/50/50 run your Aromatise Inhibitor during a cycle to keep Estrogen in check Aromasin 12.5mg/day or Arimidex 0.25mg/EOD. I recommend you to run HCG through the cycle aswell to maintain testicular function.

[Armani]

I agree you should definitely use HCG 250iu's two times a week, day before every testosterone injection.

[Other]

That's what I'm thinking.
Arimidex @ 0.25mg/eod week 1-12
Tamoxifen 10-20mg/day week 1-12
HCG 250iu/2x a week 1-12

And PCT Clomid/Tamoxifen just like you recommended.

[Other]

Should I completely stop Clomid, Tamoxifen, and HCG during the two weeks after my last injection and after that start my PCT?

Also I have read that prolonged usage of HCG like the full 12 wks might be harmful.

[AdamW]

Clomid and Tamoxifen are your PCT. Don't start to take them till 2 weeks from the last injection of Testosterone E. Run your Adex or Aromasin through your cycle to keep Estrogen in balance. Run HCG along with your test untill 3 days before starting PCT.

[Other]

I know Adex should keep my oestrogen in balance but I have read many people prefer to take a small dose of Tamoxifen to be completely sure gyno is kept away.

I had gynecomastia as a teen and my brother also did. So you should understand my concerns.

I know Tamoxifen will not lower oestrogen levels but if there are high amounts of oestrogen Tamoxifen will prevent it from binding.

[Other]

Is there any benefit to run Tamoxifen with Arimidex during full cycle and if so then is-it safe to run Tamoxifen that long? And do I have to taper down Arimidex or simply keep it at same dose during entire cycle and drop it same day of my final Testosterone shot?

I know I got lots of questions but I would rather sound stupid and get the information that I need instead of end up with gyno and erectile dysfunction at only 27.

[Ari]

Is there any benefit to run Tamoxifen with Arimidex during full cycle and if so then is-it safe to run Tamoxifen that long? And do I have to taper down Arimidex or simply keep it at same dose during entire cycle and drop it same day of my final Testosterone shot?

I know I got lots of questions but I would rather sound stupid and get the information that I need instead of end up with gyno and erectile dysfunction at only 27.

Take your Arimidex and HCG untill three days before you start PCT. I probably would not run the Tamoxifen during cycle unless you'll need to but I'm not prone to gynecomastia.

[Other]

So here is how the cycle and pct should look like as I understand..

CYCLE
Testosterone Enan 250mg/x2 times a week 1-12
Adex .25mg/EOD ending three days before PCT
HCG 250iu/2x times a week ending three days before PCT
Tamoxifen on hand if gyno signs appear

PCT
Start 14 days after last Testosterone Enan shot
mg/day 4 weeks
Tamoxifene 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50

[AdamW]

So here is how the cycle and pct should look like as I understand..

CYCLE
Testosterone Enan 250mg/x2 times a week 1-12
Adex .25mg/EOD ending three days before PCT
HCG 250iu/2x times a week ending three days before PCT
Tamoxifen on hand if gyno signs appear

PCT
Start 14 days after last Testosterone Enan shot
mg/day 4 weeks
Tamoxifene 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50

Looks great mate. You could take the Arimidex right up to PCT.

[Lolik]

I'm also in my 1st cycle of Testosterone Enan 250mg/2x week for 12 weeks the same as the OP. My problem is that I didn't research much till I started my cycle already. I'm now completing 6th week of my cycle, should I buy some HCG and Adex as soon as possible and get on it just like the OP planned to. Or should I just get some Tamoxifen and Clomid for the PCT?

[AdamW]

I'm also in my 1st cycle of Testosterone Enan 250mg/2x week for 12 weeks the same as the OP. My problem is that I didn't research much till I started my cycle already. I'm now completing 6th week of my cycle, should I buy some HCG and Adex as soon as possible and get on it just like the OP planned to. Or should I just get some Tamoxifen and Clomid for the PCT?

Yes must get some HCG and an Adex or Aromasin ASAP. Start it and run them for the rest of your cycle.

[Lolik]

Also I want to ask what needle should I use to inject HCG/AI/SERM's. Can I use the same size needle that I use for testosterone and inject in the same spot glutes or should I use a smaller needle in a different spot?

[AdamW]

Also I want to ask what needle should I use to inject HCG/AI/SERM's. Can I use the same size needle that I use for testosterone and inject in the same spot glutes or should I use a smaller needle in a different spot?

HCG is injected subQ with an insulin syringe. AI and SERM's are orals.

[Other]

Any suggestions on where to get the highest quality PCT medication at a good price?

[Lolik]

HCG is injected subQ with an insulin syringe. AI and SERM's are orals.

It looks like it is my best option to get Arimidex, Nolvadex, and Clomid. Still have to find where to get HCG, and I'll need to get syringes as well..

[AdamW]

Any suggestions on where to get the highest quality PCT medication at a good price?

Not allowed to discuss about suppliers in public forums. Sent you a PM.

[Lolik]

HCG is injected subQ with an insulin syringe. AI and SERM's are orals.

Sorry for all the nooob questions but what does subQ mean, and can I get insulin syringes in pharmacy? I didn't know others were orals. Less injections is great though.

[AdamW]

Sorry for all the nooob questions but what does subQ mean, and can I get insulin syringes in pharmacy? I didn't know others were orals. Less injections is great though.

subQ is when you shoot under your skin between the fat and the muscle tissue. Yes you can get insulin pins from pharmacy but it will be cheaper to buy in bulk.