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    Some quick beginner questions!

    So, same old story, I'm basically Capser the friendly ghost, I fake tan a lot but am so over it, and just yesterday I ordered myself some Melanotan II.
    My question is just in regards on mixing the solution properly.

    I ordered;
    10mg Melanotan II
    5ml Sterile water
    Syringes & Wipes.

    I'm unsure of how much of the Sterile water to mix with the Melanotan.
    Afterwards, do I also place the solution in the fridge or freezer?

    I weigh 65kg (143lbs) and was also curious as to how much to inject.
    I have a vague idea according to a table I looked at (0.36mg/day) - Does this sound correct?

    Awesome, any answer is appreciated haha!
    Cheers fellow tanners.
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    Re: Melanotan peptides question?

    Welcome

    Fake tan as in tanning salon/bed or sunless tanning product usage?

    You're right - in any event - both are lame and MT-II helps remove them from the lifestyle/equation

    Mix 2ml with your 10mg MT-II

    Fridge (why complicate with freezing?)

    Glad you posted, please do not reference dangerous dosage charts that do not account for sensitivity/desensitization - that dose is 3-4x what you'll want to take when initiating Melanotan therapy....
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    Re: Beginner Melanotan Questions

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    Welcome

    Fake tan as in tanning salon/bed or sunless tanning product usage?

    You're right - in any event - both are lame and MT-II helps remove them from the lifestyle/equation

    Mix 2ml with your 10mg MT-II

    Fridge (why complicate with freezing?)

    Glad you posted, please do not reference dangerous dosage charts that do not account for sensitivity/desensitization - that dose is 3-4x what you'll want to take when initiating Melanotan therapy....
    "

    I did a few sessions of a tanning bed a while back to try and build up a base tan, but was uncomfortable with the results (was burning).
    Recently I've just been using fake tan from a bottle - It looks great, but takes at least an hour to do every 3 days and then you have side effects like orange palms and whatnot. Disgusting.

    Thanks for the link!
    So being a beginner, I'll start with a 100mcg dose and work my way up daily by an extra 50mcg?
    I'm an extremely patient person, just looking for results.
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    Re: Some quick beginner questions

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    Welcome
    Fake tan as in tanning salon/bed or sunless tanning product usage?

    You're right - in any event - both are lame and MT-II helps remove them from the lifestyle/equation

    Mix 2ml with your 10mg MT-II

    Fridge (why complicate with freezing?)

    Glad you posted, please do not reference dangerous dosage charts that do not account for sensitivity/desensitization - that dose is 3-4x what you'll want to take when initiating Melanotan therapy....
    "

    I did a few sessions of a tanning bed a while back to try and build up a base tan, but was uncomfortable with the results (was burning).
    Recently I've just been using fake tan from a bottle - It looks great, but takes at least an hour to do every 3 days and then you have side effects like orange palms and whatnot. Disgusting.

    Thanks for the link!
    So being a beginner, I'll start with a 100mcg dose and work my way up daily by an extra 50mcg?
    I'm an extremely patient person, just looking for results.
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    You're in good company, I understand your story - look forward to hearing a success story from a patient result seeking candidate* ;D
    Exactly - start out very low and build up to a half mg, while respecting the mcg as you appear aware/informed
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    Re: Some quick beginner questions!

    You're a good man, Chris! Haha.

    So just received my package in the mail! Very excited.
    I'm going to wait 'till just before bed like suggested.

    The syringes are 100UNITS (1ml)
    According to the Peptide calculator, If I want 100mcg, I need to pull it up to 1 tick. Is a tick just every 10th? So I'd pull it up to 10?

    and I plan to do about 4 days of dosage (100, 150, 200, 250) and then a short session of a tanning bed every 3rd day.
    Does this sound alright for the best effects?

    Just want to make sure I'm doing this all correct! Haha.
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    Re: Some quick beginner questions!

    Just found out a tick is just every line.
    Seems like such a small amount to be dosing!

    I thought It'd be more liquid than that haha.
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    Re: Some quick beginner questions!

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    Just found out a tick is just every line.
    Seems like such a small amount to be dosing!

    I thought It'd be more liquid than that haha.
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    Glad you air'd the thought... surprises SO many... (MT-II and PT-141 overdosing...shame it happens often)* TINY amount it, especially in the larger insulin syringes
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    Re: Some quick beginner questions!

    Ok, so just did my first ever dose!
    I only put 1ml of the water in because I find that easier to understand when I measure; and the water was non reusable so the second you take the cap off It's exposed. (no rubber stopper, is this normal?)

    I used the alcohol swabs and dabbed that on the top of the MTII vial and the area of skin (chose my stomach, bit more fat to pinch).
    Is it meant to sting when you inject?
    It was only subtle, and It's gone now, but I just wasn't expecting It haha.

    Feeling pretty damn fine so far.
    I'm going to take photos everyday to log my progress.
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    Re: Some quick beginner questions!

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    Ok, so just did my first ever dose!
    I only put 1ml of the water in because I find that easier to understand when I measure; and the water was non reusable so the second you take the cap off It's exposed. (no rubber stopper, is this normal?)

    I used the alcohol swabs and dabbed that on the top of the MTII vial and the area of skin (chose my stomach, bit more fat to pinch).
    Is it meant to sting when you inject?
    It was only subtle, and It's gone now, but I just wasn't expecting It haha.

    Feeling pretty damn fine so far.
    I'm going to take photos everyday to log my progress.
    "
    Assuming you took sterile water from an ampule that sounds right - and the injects sting (bact water is the most pleasant recommended reconstitution agent)
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    Re: Some quick beginner questions!

    I got It all from europatan

    They ship within Australia so It doesn't go through customs - and It arrived very fast!
    The only thing that concerns me with the water is that you twist off the lid and It's exposed to air while you syringe it out.

    Is this the best place for me to be getting this stuff?

    On a side note, 2 hours later and I'm still feeling fine!
    No Nausea or anything.
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    Re: Some quick beginner questions!

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    I got It all from europatan

    They ship within Australia so It doesn't go through customs - and It arrived very fast!
    The only thing that concerns me with the water is that you twist off the lid and It's exposed to air while you syringe it out.

    Is this the best place for me to be getting this stuff?

    On a side note, 2 hours later and I'm still feeling fine!
    No Nausea or anything.
    "

    Aussies do not have the luxury the rest of the world has...you'll likely have to deal with what you have, dont be overly concerned about sterile water (even though it sucks).* There are only a couple local AUS distributors - good luck!
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    Re: Some quick beginner questions!

    Ok, just took second injection. Was more confident this time, and It hardly stung at all.

    The only thing that worried me was when I sucked out my 200mcg It seemed as If there was an air bubble at the top of the syringe.
    So I flicked it and squirted a little bit, but the air bubble didn't leave and I was wasting MTII.
    So I put the syringe back into the vial and put it all back in then withdrew again really slowly. Seemed fine that time.

    Any tips/tricks on air bubbles and such?
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    Re: Some quick beginner questions!

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    Ok, just took second injection. Was more confident this time, and It hardly stung at all.

    The only thing that worried me was when I sucked out my 200mcg It seemed as If there was an air bubble at the top of the syringe.
    So I flicked it and squirted a little bit, but the air bubble didn't leave and I was wasting MTII.
    So I put the syringe back into the vial and put it all back in then withdrew again really slowly. Seemed fine that time.

    Any tips/tricks on air bubbles and such?
    "

    Some overly paranoid cheap users actually inject a small air bubble in the rear as to lessen waste. Flicking the needle is an acquired art I assume, lol...it'll get better as you become acquainted with the tools ]
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    Re: Some quick beginner questions!

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    Ok, just took second injection. Was more confident this time, and It hardly stung at all.

    The only thing that worried me was when I sucked out my 200mcg It seemed as If there was an air bubble at the top of the syringe.
    So I flicked it and squirted a little bit, but the air bubble didn't leave and I was wasting MTII.
    So I put the syringe back into the vial and put it all back in then withdrew again really slowly. Seemed fine that time.

    Any tips/tricks on air bubbles and such?
    "

    Some overly paranoid cheap users actually inject a small air bubble in the rear as to lessen waste. Flicking the needle is an acquired art I assume, lol...it'll get better as you become acquainted with the tools ]"

    Haha! Oh wow. Knowledge is key.

    The only thing I'm paranoid about is wasting the MTII! It's not so cheap as to throw.. (or squirt) or around, haha.
    When I put it back into the vial It sort of frothed a bit and then subsided. I'm assuming that's just because of the force.

    2 days until tanning bed! Pretty keen!
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    Re: Some quick beginner questions!

    After injecting today (Day 4) I noticed 2 bumps around the injection site. Is this common?
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    Re: Some quick beginner questions!

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    After injecting today (Day 4) I noticed 2 bumps around the injection site. Is this common?
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    Certainly not common - never had the issue personally
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    Re: Some quick beginner questions!

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    After injecting today (Day 4) I noticed 2 bumps around the injection site. Is this common?
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    Certainly not common - never had the issue personally
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    They subsided during the next 2 hours. Think my skin was just irritated.

    Did 10 minutes in a tanning bed today and came out a little bit red (was the weakest tanning bed - I'm so untan-able haha)
    Hopefully It doesn't peel or effect my progress...
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    Re: Some quick beginner questions!

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    After injecting today (Day 4) I noticed 2 bumps around the injection site. Is this common?
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    Certainly not common - never had the issue personally
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    They subsided during the next 2 hours. Think my skin was just irritated.

    Did 10 minutes in a tanning bed today and came out a little bit red (was the weakest tanning bed - I'm so untan-able haha)
    Hopefully It doesn't peel or effect my progress...
    "

    Cool, just a small allergic reaction - glad the irritation went away asap
    10 minutes on a un-tan-able body sounds like 4-5 minutes too much imho
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    Re: Some quick beginner questions!

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    After injecting today (Day 4) I noticed 2 bumps around the injection site. Is this common?
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    Certainly not common - never had the issue personally
    "
    They subsided during the next 2 hours. Think my skin was just irritated.

    Did 10 minutes in a tanning bed today and came out a little bit red (was the weakest tanning bed - I'm so untan-able haha)
    Hopefully It doesn't peel or effect my progress...
    "

    Cool, just a small allergic reaction - glad the irritation went away asap
    10 minutes on a un-tan-able body sounds like 4-5 minutes too much imho
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    It actually COMPLETELY disappeared the next day when I woke up! No redness at all. Don't know If the melanotan had anything to do with that, but normally I stay pink for atleast 3 days.

    I just have ANOTHER question (sorry If I'm annoying you, haha!)
    For one, I'm on Day 6 now, so hoorah. I'm also taking 1mg injections and having no side effects at all (besides increased libido... awkward when I'm at work) - the last two days the injections have not been that painless... Normally It stings when the needle only touches my skin, before entering.

    Could this be because I've only been injecting around the same two places on my stomach? (above my hips, rotating every time)
    I'm not sure where else to inject on my body, or If I'm injecting into muscle or something. It stings the second I start pushing the needle.
    Nothing too bad at all, but not comfortable.

    Where do you like to inject?
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    Re: Some quick beginner questions!

    More questions the better, I enjoy it - thank you!

    Random excitement at work can be good times, lol - hope you're able to regain focus without troubles ]
    Painful injects can be from duller needles, larger gauges...mainly technique.* Might need to dart a bit quicker to avoid pain.* I always stick to the stomach/navel area (rotating of course)...shouldn't be an issue.* Sounds like you're experiencing pain from the dilutent (sterile water hurts whereas bacteriostatic waters do not - why?* don't know.)